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MOTOWN
08-29-2014, 10:44 PM
Got my intake back , and installed after having Hogans modify it for the Kenny Belle Mamouth T/B (2150cfm) , I also changed my Innovators west 15% balancer to a 18% O/D balancer , and changed the S/C pulley from a 2.9 to a 3.0 RR style pulley.

Pictures do not do this thing justice! the T/B is 7" wide by 4" tall!:eek: I can put my fist in the T/B!:banana:
http://i1020.photobucket.com/albums/af324/sims36/20140811_143634_zpsaf8f184a.jp g

http://i1020.photobucket.com/albums/af324/sims36/20140811_144001_zps4d28639f.jp g

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Zack
08-29-2014, 11:02 PM
Why do you always do unnecessary mods?
Not knocking you, just inquiring why you like to throw money away.
:confused:

Zack
08-29-2014, 11:03 PM
But I'll agree it looks awesome

jwibbity
08-29-2014, 11:03 PM
when's the next dyno?!?!? :banana2::banana2:

Mebot
08-29-2014, 11:07 PM
Why do you always do unnecessary mods?
Not knocking you, just inquiring why you like to throw money away.
:confused:
Says the guy who fabbed a complete turbo swap in his DBP

MOTOWN
08-29-2014, 11:52 PM
Why do you always do unnecessary mods?
Not knocking you, just inquiring why you like to throw money away.
:confused:

Man where do I start:rolleyes: who says its unnecessary? first let me say I don't take it as knocking at all , I don't agree with most of what you say , but that's my opinion , I also don't think that getting more air into an engine is ever unnecessary!

I could say the same about your build , but I respect other peoples vision even if I don't agree the way they go about making it happen!

Ill let the Dyno #s speak on whats necessary

MOTOWN
08-29-2014, 11:53 PM
when's the next dyno?!?!? :banana2::banana2:

Stay tuned my pretty!:coolman:

jwibbity
08-30-2014, 12:35 AM
Stay tuned my pretty!:coolman:

I wanna see 750 at the wheels or your :banned:

MOTOWN
08-30-2014, 12:51 AM
I wanna see 750 at the wheels or your :banned:

LMAO! hell ill be happy with 725!:depress:

jwibbity
08-30-2014, 12:57 AM
LMAO! hell ill be happy with 725!:depress:
even 700 is alot!!!

MOTOWN
08-30-2014, 01:00 AM
even 700 is alot!!!

Ill take 700 and be hell a happy!:banana2: that would be a 40hp gain!

J-MAN
08-30-2014, 03:26 AM
My, that's a big one!

CWright
08-30-2014, 04:39 AM
Man that thing looks freaking awesome!!! I can't wait to see what happens on the dyno!


Why do you always do unnecessary mods?
Not knocking you, just inquiring why you like to throw money away.
:confused:


You know, I like you bro, I know you have your ideas just like everyone else does when it comes to modding cars. You know your stuff but so does Roger. There's nothing that pisses me off any worse than somebody telling me how to spend my money. Kinda like the comments you posted on the heads I bought for my car being a waste if I wasn't going for 800 plus. You know, my money my car! I don't need anyone's permission on how to spend it or mod it! Roger spent his money how he saw fit. His money, his car! If I was the kind of guy who told others how to spend there's then I would have told you to strip the blue down and not salvage it! I 'd hate driving a car that got trashed like that in a wreck! I'd found another blue and modified it instead! But did I say that? Nope! Your car, your money and time! I know you add value out here and you've even helped me in the past when I ASKED! Inserting opinions in a way that knocks someone out here really gets old! Like I said in the beginning, yes I like you and I think you add a lot out here. You have a rough delivery sometimes, like here! Telling someone they pissed their money away on a public forum , when you weren't asked your opinion on in the first place, gonna call BS! Their money, their car!

martyo
08-30-2014, 05:07 AM
Roger, as they say here in the South, you sure do have a pretty mouth.

Looks cool sand Hogan sure can lay a weld down!

RubberCtyRauder
08-30-2014, 05:24 AM
Roger, the Detroit-Windsor Tunnel called, they want their tunnel opening back...:D Is there an echo in here?:eek:

:burnout::burnout:

1stMerc
08-30-2014, 05:33 AM
You're gonna need a bigger car!!!!

boatmangc
08-30-2014, 05:42 AM
Why do you always do unnecessary mods?
Not knocking you, just inquiring why you like to throw money away.
:confused:

If we were concerned about throwing money away we would all be driving diesel Rabbits.....

lji372
08-30-2014, 06:46 AM
If we were concerned about throwing money away we would all be driving diesel Rabbits.....

Truth..... But I am going to buy one of those elio thingys :D

jwibbity
08-30-2014, 06:49 AM
Ill take 700 and be hell a happy!:banana2: that would be a 40hp gain!

so when are you going to adopt me?!?:beer:

MOTOWN
08-30-2014, 07:01 AM
so when are you going to adopt me?!?:beer:

LMAO! you prolly eat as much as my son , 2 crumb snatchers is plenty

jwibbity
08-30-2014, 07:04 AM
LMAO! you prolly eat as much as my son , 2 crumb snatchers is plenty

but you'll be a granddad once you adopt me!!!!

If your not already.....

There's nothing cooler than a grandpa with a fast car!! :coolman::burnout:

MOTOWN
08-30-2014, 07:07 AM
but you'll be a granddad once you adopt me!!!!

If your not already.....

There's nothing cooler than a grandpa with a fast car!! :coolman::burnout:


Hopefully not for a lonnngggg time, too young to be gramps:nono::geezer:

1Marauder
08-30-2014, 07:15 AM
WOW that is completely @&&$(;!'v COOL looking.

Is this where the art for the new shirt came from???

Zack
08-30-2014, 07:32 AM
I'd like to apologize to you Roger.
After all these years of messing around, I like to see everyone making the power their setup is capable of at the price point it needs to be.

I've been out of the mindset that if it's cool who cares for so long, I say dumb things to guys like you.

And sorry to Chris if I erked you as well

:beer:

MOTOWN
08-30-2014, 09:02 AM
I'd like to apologize to you Roger.
After all these years of messing around, I like to see everyone making the power their setup is capable of at the price point it needs to be.

I've been out of the mindset that if it's cool who cares for so long, I say dumb things to guys like you.

And sorry to Chris if I erked you as well

:beer:
No need to apologize we all like modding to know end! I like yanking your chain as much as the next guy! its all good! oh and the price point it needs to be at is subjective!:beer:

lji372
08-30-2014, 01:10 PM
Now I need a towel :o



Hopefully not for a lonnngggg time, too young to be gramps:nono::geezer:

Did I mention..... Yep........ True story :mad2: and :banana2: at the same time:help:

Limited360
08-30-2014, 01:39 PM
That is a serious intake!! What's the blower flowing for CFM? Up towards that limit? 2100+ CFM should be good for that HP number. Looking forward to seeing the dyno chart!


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk so I may sound retarded.

MOTOWN
08-30-2014, 02:32 PM
That is a serious intake!! What's the blower flowing for CFM? Up towards that limit? 2100+ CFM should be good for that HP number. Looking forward to seeing the dyno chart!


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk so I may sound retarded.

You know that's an excellent question , once I see where my mods put me boost wise ill have a better idea on the CFMs ,im not close as its a max of 30psi, ill prolly be around 22-24psi , looking forward to finding out!

MOTOWN
08-30-2014, 02:37 PM
WOW that is completely @&&$(;!'v COOL looking.

Is this where the art for the new shirt came from???


Don't I wish! LOL

Seneca
08-30-2014, 07:41 PM
Very nice!!

8UWITH6
08-30-2014, 07:50 PM
Looks good Roger. Keep doing your thing. Awesome car sir.

1Marauder
09-01-2014, 03:21 PM
I want to see it ON the car!!!

PHOTOS Please????

tbone
09-01-2014, 04:21 PM
I love pissing away money on my car. It's the only hobby I have left after all the sh** I used to do, but don't have the time or energy for anymore.

Tomorrow I'm going to piss away $10 and buy a quart of Dot 3 and bleed my brakes with the new speed bleeders I bought and pissed away money on.

Then I'm going to piss away another $350 and buy Metco's Watts link setup.

And THEN.......

guspech750
09-01-2014, 08:07 PM
I love pissing away money on my car. It's the only hobby I have left after all the sh** I used to do, but don't have the time or energy for anymore.

Tomorrow I'm going to piss away $10 and buy a quart of Dot 3 and bleed my brakes with the new speed bleeders I bought and pissed away money on.

Then I'm going to piss away another $350 and buy Metco's Watts link setup.

And THEN.......

LOL.


Sent from The White House on taxpayers dimes.

DTR + 4.10's + Eaton swap = Wreeeeeeeeeeeeeeedom

Shaijack
09-03-2014, 07:22 PM
My, that's a big one!
That's what she said....

boatmangc
09-04-2014, 04:18 AM
I want to see it ON the DRAG STRIP THIS NOVEMBER!!!

PHOTOS Please????

Fixed it for ya!

MOTOWN
09-24-2014, 12:42 AM
I want to see it ON the car!!!

PHOTOS Please????

Got the intake back on the car , and just about ready for the Dyno! I had the S/C bracket , Alt bracket , and Fuel rails powder coated:cool4:

http://i1020.photobucket.com/albums/af324/sims36/20140919_113840_zps865e4f3c.jp g

http://i1020.photobucket.com/albums/af324/sims36/20140919_113849_zps57429b93.jp g

http://i1020.photobucket.com/albums/af324/sims36/20140919_113900_zpsfd79f8f9.jp g

massacre
09-24-2014, 12:51 AM
Wow is all I can say, that looks fantastic!
So I assume you are trying to make the same power with less boost?
And then you can really turn up the wick :bows:

MOTOWN
09-24-2014, 12:55 AM
Wow is all I can say, that looks fantastic!
So I assume you are trying to make the same power with less boost?
And then you can really turn up the wick :bows:

Thanks , actually im looking to hit the 700 club! or close to it , we shall see!

Guittard22
09-24-2014, 04:31 AM
Thanks , actually im looking to hit the 700 club! or close to it , we shall see!

Holy @@@@ batman ! That engine bay is out of this world !

camelgrundle
09-24-2014, 08:59 AM
Looks good brother!

lji372
09-24-2014, 09:48 AM
Can't wait to see it in Chicago!!!

Mike M
09-24-2014, 10:57 AM
I got a Chubby.

1Marauder
09-24-2014, 12:21 PM
DAD, Can I PLEASE have one like THAT one.

Holy Smokes his Tires Batman....


How do you keep that hing on the ground?



Boy, that's PURDY!


Now I know what I want to do to mine... that is the end of the atmosphere.


Dang that is SWEET!

MOTOWN
09-24-2014, 02:33 PM
Jeff just made a pull 761 RWHP! Not bad for a T/B mod! LMAO Time to change my sig! That's a gain of 101.5rwhp!

RubberCtyRauder
09-24-2014, 02:47 PM
we need MO vids of the new dyno pull!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

SGT_MERC
09-24-2014, 03:13 PM
Are the heads worked? Cams?

2mercs
09-24-2014, 03:55 PM
Are you and Chris trying to see who can break Marty's dyno first?

BigM460
09-24-2014, 04:07 PM
Jeff just made a pull 761 RWHP! Not bad for a T/B mod! LMAO Time to change my sig! That's a gain of 101.5rwhp!

Say what!!!!:eek:

MOTOWN
09-24-2014, 04:10 PM
Are the heads worked? Cams?

Nope! that's the beauty of its a stock 10.1 Aluminator W/lots O BOOST!


Are you and Chris trying to see who can break Marty's dyno first?

Yeah but we cant seem to even scratch the rollers!:depress:

MOTOWN
09-24-2014, 04:14 PM
Say what!!!!:eek:

YUUUUPPPPP!!!!! Here is the dyno graph , I was too busy running around the shop smiling to get a video , Turns out what I thought was valve spring float turned out to have been belt slip which was addressed with the A&A Corvette pulley (basically a RR style pulley) the graph has a nice curve to it!:banana2::banana:

http://i1020.photobucket.com/albums/af324/sims36/20140924_171816_zps9548c429.jp g

BigM460
09-24-2014, 04:20 PM
Dude! HP and TQ are still on the way up at 7000rpm.
Crazy! Guess you will leave the dyno happy this time.
Very impressive!

MOTOWN
09-24-2014, 04:23 PM
Dude! HP and TQ are still on the way up at 7000rpm.
Crazy! Guess you will leave the dyno happy this time.
Very impressive!

Hell yeah! Jeff is da MAN!:bows::bows:

CWright
09-24-2014, 04:56 PM
:coolman::bounce::rock::high5:

1stMerc
09-24-2014, 06:16 PM
Wow, that is outrageous!!! Way to put a plan together. Looks like 800 is just around the corner.

martyo
09-24-2014, 06:18 PM
Jeff just made a pull 761 RWHP! Not bad for a T/B mod! LMAO Time to change my sig! That's a gain of 101.5rwhp!

That makes no sense.

I could have sworn I read on the inter webs that the Mammoth would not help you and was an unnecessary mod.

lji372
09-24-2014, 06:27 PM
Daaaamn roger!!!!!

Congrats :bows:


Still time to clean her up and get to Chicago!!!!


I'm every happy for you man.

This has been a long time coming.

Question is, did you order the twin turbos yet?? :run:

BigM460
09-24-2014, 06:48 PM
That makes no sense.

I could have sworn I read on the inter webs that the Mammoth would not help you and was an unnecessary mod.

:eek: Can't stop giggling! :D
You need to quit. ;)

CWright
09-24-2014, 06:52 PM
That makes no sense.

I could have sworn I read on the inter webs that the Mammoth would not help you and was an unnecessary mod.

Very Impressive numbers!!! Hope I can at least bust 700! :D

martyo
09-24-2014, 06:53 PM
You need to quit. ;)

I quit years ago.

This is me retired.

Limited360
09-24-2014, 07:06 PM
Very nice numbers!! I am feeling rather jelly right now about it!!! Can't wait to see what this does at the track.

Can you post your last dyno chart from before the mod? Be nice to see the comparison and where the increase in power was.

Just curious why the slope of the torque curve changed at 5000 RPM? Airflow or spark change at that point? Also one more question... Is the AFR trace accurate? Above 12:1 after 6250 RPM. Seems risky!

I know I am needy...

STEPS
09-24-2014, 07:26 PM
awesome piece
the welds are best I've seen since the space programs I worked on

lji372
09-24-2014, 07:36 PM
Very nice numbers!! I am feeling rather jelly right now about it!!! Can't wait to see what this does at the track.

Can you post your last dyno chart from before the mod? Be nice to see the comparison and where the increase in power was.

Just curious why the slope of the torque curve changed at 5000 RPM? Airflow or spark change at that point? Also one more question... Is the AFR trace accurate? Above 12:1 after 6250 RPM. Seems risky!

I know I am needy...

+1 on him being needy

Motorhead350
09-24-2014, 08:26 PM
Does this fit under a stock hood?

Serious question.

MOTOWN
09-24-2014, 08:39 PM
That makes no sense.

I could have sworn I read on the inter webs that the Mammoth would not help you and was an unnecessary mod.

MVP post right here ladies and gents!:beer: LOL

MOTOWN
09-24-2014, 08:45 PM
Very nice numbers!! I am feeling rather jelly right now about it!!! Can't wait to see what this does at the track.

Can you post your last dyno chart from before the mod? Be nice to see the comparison and where the increase in power was.

Just curious why the slope of the torque curve changed at 5000 RPM? Airflow or spark change at that point? Also one more question... Is the AFR trace accurate? Above 12:1 after 6250 RPM. Seems risky!

I know I am needy...

I don't have a pic of the entire graph for the 660rwhp pull , but I can tell you it was very choppy due to the belt slip. I would have to ask Jeff , that's his area of expertise.


Does this fit under a stock hood?

Serious question.

Yes after I notched the support brace it barely fit , but I wanted a hood like Todds turbo hood which is where I got the idea to have Class Glass produce the "Power bulge" hood.

Guittard22
09-25-2014, 02:42 AM
Are you and Chris trying to see who can break Marty's dyno first?



Looks like it :) fun to see them go up in numbers ! Anything in the 700 hp club is crazy .

martyo
09-25-2014, 03:46 AM
MVP post right here haters and gents!:beer: LOL

Post fixed!

lji372
09-25-2014, 04:22 AM
Post fixed!

:drool: who's hating, I want a ride!!!!

Marty put some video up I'm the dang shop already, yes with audio :shake:

Limited360
09-25-2014, 04:30 AM
:drool: who's hating, I want a ride!!!!

Marty put some video up I'm the dang shop already, yes with audio :shake:

Fail.. supposed to be on your way to MV12!!!

RubberCtyRauder
09-25-2014, 04:40 AM
I thought it felt extra breezy yesterday..winds were heading south for some reason.....Now I know, it was that mammoth and blower sucking all the air from the eastern half of US. :)

Triple Threat
09-25-2014, 04:44 AM
That is one of the best looking engine compartments I have seen on a marauder.Nice dyno numbers.

WhatsUpDOHC
09-25-2014, 05:09 AM
I thought it felt extra breezy yesterday..winds were heading south for some reason.....Now I know, it was that mammoth and blower sucking all the air from the eastern half of US. :)
Yes, Roger, STOP PULLING ALL OF OUR AIR SOUTH!!!!
http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/09/25/d00a0e1c5fac4243aed6b035adc32f 58.jpg

jflave
09-25-2014, 07:24 AM
Crazy nice numbers & looks great :2thumbs:

loud2004marquis
09-25-2014, 07:25 AM
Congrats to you sir!

Thats one mean machine, when you taking it to the track?

2,4shofast
09-25-2014, 09:31 AM
Crazy numbers, congrats!:beer:

massacre
09-25-2014, 09:53 AM
I just noticed we have our cooling mod/on3 set up the same way
:banana: