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2mercs
10-15-2014, 05:36 AM
So I paid a "friend" to delete my cats last weekend. Fast forward to this morning driving home from work developed a leak from the drivers side. Figured F it bolt came loose. Get home open hood because leak is coming from manifold see this. http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/10/15/94cac40201aecc4d5f5ab7d29b2e47 89.jpg WTF not too happy at this point. Text him to ask about it. No response. So no I have to pull the thing off, probably need a new one or long tubes.
Take it to a different exhaust shop.
They can fix it or rig it so it holds.
If you plan on removing it, start soaking the hardware in penetrating oil NOW.
2mercs
10-15-2014, 05:55 AM
Thanks for the advice Zack and the shimmer of hope. They might give me a little flack for removing factory emissions equipment. Worst case car will get put away till spring then I'll have time to save money for headers.
Comin' in Hot
10-15-2014, 06:29 AM
take it apart and drill out the broken bolt, then nut and bolt it..... the same thing happened to my cobra shorties.
fastblackmerc
10-15-2014, 06:42 AM
take it apart and drill out the broken bolt, then nut and bolt it..... the same thing happened to my cobra shorties.
This ^^^^^^^^^^^ or
Soak the broken piece, drill out the center, use heat and an extractor to remove.
2mercs
10-15-2014, 06:47 AM
Update: Just talked to him guess they all broke. Really disappointed he didn't tell me. So they are all rigged in such manner. How difficult is it to pull them off? Any tips? Don't wany to break the manifold studs and have to pull the heads off too.
wannaMM
10-15-2014, 07:48 AM
I know this might be a "Dead" art...But one of the things that I was taught under the muffler rack ,was to "burn" broken bolts from cast manifolds.
It requires BIG cohones,as there's a lot of molten metal hitting the ground(hopefully)(not into sleeve).
The higher carbon bolt will "burn" (oxidize) right out of the threaded hole,leaving enough threads to run a tap into and facilitate a repair.
The repair route he took would have worked if he'd used a cast rod (High nickel)or a 309 wire/argon mix.
Hope this helps.....
fastblackmerc
10-15-2014, 10:11 AM
I know this might be a "Dead" art...But one of the things that I was taught under the muffler rack ,was to "burn" broken bolts from cast manifolds.
It requires BIG cohones,as there's a lot of molten metal hitting the ground(hopefully)(not into sleeve).
The higher carbon bolt will "burn" (oxidize) right out of the threaded hole,leaving enough threads to run a tap into and facilitate a repair.
The repair route he took would have worked if he'd used a cast rod (High nickel)or a 309 wire/argon mix.
Hope this helps.....
Did that many times back in the late 70's & 80's.
justbob
10-15-2014, 02:04 PM
Did that many times back in the late 70's & 80's.
Same here. Oxy/acetylene and watch it just run right out as liquid leaving all the threads intact. Not something I'd feel comfy with on someone else's car though..
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71cyclone
10-16-2014, 09:52 AM
Did that many times back in the late 70's & 80's.
Ditto ,back in the day when Ford's Slogan was ' Ford has a Better Idea ':beer: Northeast Ford 1979-- Tech #12 '' Warranty Slave '':depress:
fastblackmerc
10-16-2014, 10:24 AM
Ditto ,back in the day when Ford's Slogan was ' Ford has a Better Idea ':beer: Northeast Ford 1979-- Tech #12 '' Warranty Slave '':depress:
1974 - 1980, Wayne Lincoln Mercury, Wayne , N.J. Line tech, used cars & new car prep. Remember you had to drill the hole for and install the antenna? Also did the under coating, inside the doors and rocker panels.
1982 - 1983, Terry Ford, Pompano Beach, Fl., line tech specializing in electrical, squeaks, rattles, water leaks, brakes, tune ups, all types of engine repairs.
Logizyme
10-16-2014, 01:40 PM
Looks like he tried welding a new stud onto the manifold. Totally the wrong way to fix this. I run into this quite a bit, and most the cars I work on are not this rusty - so I'm not surprised that they all broke.
He should have extracted the broken stud, and either replaced it or ran a bolt through the hole.
While you could save some money and reuse your manifolds, your going to save allot of trouble and labor by just replacing them - new mani's, mani studs & nuts, and gaskets.
Curless
10-16-2014, 05:16 PM
They can be fixed...on your back under the car....well not something I would try. If you have access to a hoist pop the cats off and get out your safety goggles. Don't forget your patience and really sharp drill bits.
2mercs
10-16-2014, 05:21 PM
Taking it to an exhaust shop tomorrow to see if they can do anything. If not manifolds are coming off then going to the machine shop to get the broken studs out.
2mercs
10-16-2014, 05:26 PM
Looks like he tried welding a new stud onto the manifold. Totally the wrong way to fix this. I run into this quite a bit, and most the cars I work on are not this rusty - so I'm not surprised that they all broke.
He should have extracted the broken stud, and either replaced it or ran a bolt through the hole.
While you could save some money and reuse your manifolds, your going to save allot of trouble and labor by just replacing them - new mani's, mani studs & nuts, and gaskets.
Yeah I know that's the wrong way to fix it. He did it without telling me. My cars not that rusty. You should see my marquis.
71cyclone
10-17-2014, 03:58 AM
1974 - 1980, Wayne Lincoln Mercury, Wayne , N.J. Line tech, used cars & new car prep. Remember you had to drill the hole for and install the antenna? Also did the under coating, inside the doors and rocker panels.
1982 - 1983, Terry Ford, Pompano Beach, Fl., line tech specializing in electrical, squeaks, rattles, water leaks, brakes, tune ups, all types of engine repairs.
Ha Ha yes -my Friend ,we DX-ed a car or two from you guys in Jersey, and I do remember the Radio package deals [ the ford look alike Radio's and CB all in one units] , still got my' hole saw'... Auto Armor sealant ,Apple polishing package and don't forget 'Poly Glycoat' all get the consumer- ROBERY packages and don't forget the Famous ADM ,adjusted dealer markup :mad2:, I do remember the Sun roof leaks and them dam- after market T-Top leaks [ Hum - the used car prep dept was good for side money ] Its good to meet another "Cousin" Cousin..
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