6 speed automatic w/paddle shifters for us!

[chief455]

http://www.tciauto.com/tc/6x-six-speed-transmission-package-small-block-ford-4-6-6-bolt-crank-bellhousing-paddle-shifterhtml

Available for 8 bolt crank as well. :eek::eek:

[jwibbity]

http://www.tciauto.com/tc/6x-six-speed-transmission-package-small-block-ford-4-6-6-bolt-crank-bellhousing-paddle-shifterhtml

Available for 8 bolt crank as well. :eek::eek:

Only issue I see is how are you going to rebuild it if it breaks?!?!?

[03blackvegas]

http://www.tciauto.com/tc/6x-six-speed-transmission-package-small-block-ford-4-6-6-bolt-crank-bellhousing-paddle-shifterhtml

Available for 8 bolt crank as well. :eek::eek:

Please check into Gear Venders Overdrive units, if you run a automatic, and you want to add more gears and more performance, it's a good way to go.

[Comin' in Hot]

The TCI unit looks awesome but the price doesn't. The other thing to look at this the final drive ratio which is the same as a 4L80E because that's what its made out of..... basically is not extra OD gears is more in between. If it works anything like some other transmissions that have been converted to to have extra gears its like having a lower gear with OD engaged. example 1st, 2nd, 2nd OD, 3rd, 4th... that's how Fords 5r55 works.

[jwibbity]

after looking at other sites and thier experiences, OD applies 3 times through all six gears

TCI 6X and Regular 4 Speed
1=1
2=1+OD
3=2
4=2+OD
5=3
6=4/OD

[Comin' in Hot]

As for the GV attached to our 4r70w to make an 8 speed... I've been down that road, the adapter needed serious work to make it clean because it was actually for a 4wd trans and there isn't one made our trans and I was told it "should" work with a single PCM, but the only known one used a flip chip to make it work........ after mulling it over, it wasn't worth the chance to me and I sent it back...... if you are going to swap transmissions, it's an awesome product. I regret not keeping it for m Dad's 1941 Chevy using a different adapter.

[cer0413]

http://www.tciauto.com/tc/6x-six-speed-transmission-package-small-block-ford-4-6-6-bolt-crank-bellhousing-paddle-shifterhtml

Available for 8 bolt crank as well. :eek::eek:
Wow, Opra couldn't afford that!

[03blackvegas]

As for the GV attached to our 4r70w to make an 8 speed... I've been down that road, the adapter needed serious work to make it clean because it was actually for a 4wd trans and there isn't one made our trans and I was told it "should" work with a single PCM, but the only known one used a flip chip to make it work........ after mulling it over, it wasn't worth the chance to me and I sent it back...... if you are going to swap transmissions, it's an awesome product. I regret not keeping it for m Dad's 1941 Chevy using a different adapter.

Did you talk to someone at Gear Venders?

[Comin' in Hot]

Did you talk to someone at Gear Venders?

Yeah, I stopped in at GV when I was in SoCal for work and ordered it..... They are great people, but like I said in another thread, the adapter wasn't meant for the application and was machined to work, but in reality it needed material to be added to it and remachined, which I was willing to do. What changed my mind was that I kept hearing it should work with the computer, but I couldn't get a definite yes it will work. There is a reason its not listed in their catalog and all but one marauder or modern mustang I know of that has it, runs a TH400 trans...... my ultimate goal was to have 4.56s to get my Vortech moving and then have a double OD to allow me to actually drive it somewhere other than around town..... Now I'm just going a totally different route.

[chief455]

Good discussion.
I've had Gear Vendors over / under drive behind a TH400 before, and that was a perfect application.
I never got into the 'split shift' thing = no real gain. Just 1,2,3 and OD allowing for 4:30 gears behind an old Pontiac motor.

In Marauder, if this TCI worked well and cost $3500 with paddle shifters and all programmable, that would be a win.

[lifespeed]

How about a 5 speed 5R55S (http://www.tciauto.com/tc/super-streetfightertm-5r55s-transmission-05-10-mustang-4-6lhtml/)?

[chief455]

How about a 5 speed 5R55S (http://www.tciauto.com/tc/super-streetfightertm-5r55s-transmission-05-10-mustang-4-6lhtml/)?
Anyone ever swap one into a Panther / 4.6?
will our PCM plug into and control shifting?

bell housing bolt pattern, convertor distance / bolt pattern, trans mount, tail housing length, outside body fit in trans tunnel?
if yes, could get good used one and swap in....

At least their 6x has it's own controller, and they make it sound like it would fit....

[Comin' in Hot]

How about a 5 speed 5R55S (http://www.tciauto.com/tc/super-streetfightertm-5r55s-transmission-05-10-mustang-4-6lhtml/)?


they are crap, I've seen a bunch fail behind ranger v6s

[lifespeed]

they are crap, I've seen a bunch fail behind ranger v6s

That is not the ranger trans, although it isn't as strong as a 4R75W either.

[chief455]

The TCI unit looks awesome but the price doesn't. The other thing to look at this the final drive ratio which is the same as a 4L80E because that's what its made out of..... basically is not extra OD gears is more in between. If it works anything like some other transmissions that have been converted to to have extra gears its like having a lower gear with OD engaged. example 1st, 2nd, 2nd OD, 3rd, 4th... that's how Fords 5r55 works.
That is what I expected, and would prefer to further OD ratios.
I guess they just want older cars to get the advantage of more gears, keeping rpm's in the zone for better efficiency, in theory.

[lifespeed]

Anyone ever swap one into a Panther / 4.6?
will our PCM plug into and control shifting?

bell housing bolt pattern, convertor distance / bolt pattern, trans mount, tail housing length, outside body fit in trans tunnel?
if yes, could get good used one and swap in....

At least their 6x has it's own controller, and they make it sound like it would fit....

There is no plug and play trans swap.

[chief455]

I just think I'd enjoy paddle shifting a 6 speed in my Marauder :)

[SOSA03]

hmmmm thinking about it

[lifespeed]

I just think I'd enjoy paddle shifting a 6 speed in my Marauder :)

May as well go all the way with a dual-clutch gearbox.

[justbob]

How about a 5 speed 5R55S (http://www.tciauto.com/tc/super-streetfightertm-5r55s-transmission-05-10-mustang-4-6lhtml/)?


Too many failures, less torque rating, and to my knowledge our PCM's only have four forward gear pin outs.


Builder Of Badassery

[Comin' in Hot]

That is not the ranger trans, although it isn't as strong as a 4R75W either.

it sure is a ranger trans, I just replaced one in my dad's 1999 35,000 mile ranger. I swear the OD never worked from the time he picked it up with 12,000 on it. It always felt like a 3 speed. It's a serious piece of ************

[lifespeed]

it sure is a ranger trans, I just replaced one in my dad's 1999 35,000 mile ranger. I swear the OD never worked from the time he picked it up with 12,000 on it. It always felt like a 3 speed. It's a serious piece of ************

Ranger is the 5R55E, not 5R55S which has bigger parts. Yes, as stated previously, the 4R75W is known to be stronger than nearly any other practical option.

FWIW, 5R55S was used in the 2005 - 2010 mustang. Not that that means much.

[MOTOWN]

I had a TCI trans before , never again! TOTAL JUNK! and i don't like the so called six speed deal they have.

The 4L80E is an excellent trans if i were to go that route i would get a Hughes 480LE and mate it to a Gear vendors , the Hughes trans has the 4.6L bell housing (sfi unit) bolted on the trans and is ready to bolt up to the 4.6L , and also comes with its own stand alone controller/ecm.

But keep in mind the trans Xmember will have to moved back as the 480LE is a longer trans than the 4r75W , and the drive shaft will have to be shortened so not exactly a plug and play , but the 480LE is much stronger and has a better 1st gear , and will hold up to 1K rwhp.

[Bad_S55]

Has a newer 6R80 from a Mustang or 2WD SUV ever been swapped into a Marauder before?

[Curless]

We have installed one of these in a 71 Cutlass, its awesome! However, its DAMN expensive! There is a learning curve to installing it and getting the converter right. THIS IS NOT FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE CHEAP OR TIGHT WITH THEIR $$$$.

Oh, this car is making over 550 horsepower and 600lbs/ft of torque...ask LJI, this car is bad!~

[mercury5]

Im saving up my money now waiting on JustBob to get tired of his 6 speed kit and sell his to me :D, i think i hear Crickets :run::run::run::run::run::run: :run:

[chief455]

I had a TCI trans before , never again! TOTAL JUNK! and i don't like the so called six speed deal they have.

The 4L80E is an excellent trans if i were to go that route i would get a Hughes 480LE and mate it to a Gear vendors , the Hughes trans has the 4.6L bell housing (sfi unit) bolted on the trans and is ready to bolt up to the 4.6L , and also comes with its own stand alone controller/ecm.

But keep in mind the trans Xmember will have to moved back as the 480LE is a longer trans than the 4r75W , and the drive shaft will have to be shortened so not exactly a plug and play , but the 480LE is much stronger and has a better 1st gear , and will hold up to 1K rwhp.
Sorry, but where does the 480LE trans come from? models / years?
would the overall size fit in a Panther tunnel?
I've done similar swaps as this before with success...

We have installed one of these in a 71 Cutlass, its awesome! However, its DAMN expensive! There is a learning curve to installing it and getting the converter right. THIS IS NOT FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE CHEAP OR TIGHT WITH THEIR $$$$.

Oh, this car is making over 550 horsepower and 600lbs/ft of torque...ask LJI, this car is bad!~
you mean the TCI 6x for $8k?
and does it work with a lock up convertor?

[DTUB]

The paddle shifter probably won't work on are steering wheel.

[Curless]

Sorry, but where does the 480LE trans come from? models / years?
would the overall size fit in a Panther tunnel?
I've done similar swaps as this before with success...

you mean the TCI 6x for $8k?
and does it work with a lock up convertor?

Yes, we installed one in a Cutlass we work on...This is the first day of Power Tour, our car made the cover of Hot Rod's page! 6 forward speeds with lock up, all programmable.

http://www.hotrod.com/events/hot-rod-power-tour/2014/brown-car-appreciation-gallery-power-tour-2014/

TCI 6X with paddle shifter...its fricken bad azz!

As for what years the 4L80E came in they start in...they go back to like 91 -93 full size GM trucks with a diesel to begin with, now they come in all HD trucks gas or diesel...

[babbage]

http://www.tciauto.com/tc/6x-six-speed-transmission-package-small-block-ford-4-6-6-bolt-crank-bellhousing-paddle-shifterhtml

Available for 8 bolt crank as well. :eek::eek:


Nice find. Someone should tell TCI that the 4r70w has a final drive of .70

And TCI's (4r70W replacment) unit even with "6" gears has a final drive of .75 (HIGHER RPM)

Duh?

[lifespeed]

Nice find. Someone should tell TCI that the 4r70w has a final drive of .70

And TCI's (4r70W replacment) unit even with "6" gears has a final drive of .75 (HIGHER RPM)

Duh?

Close ratio spacing using more gears while maintaining the same overall range provides a significant advantage. I drove a BMW 328 with 240 HP and an 8-speed automatic that accelerated faster than my Marauder, despite the Marauder's slight power-to-weight advantage.

[MOTOWN]

Close ratio spacing using more gears while maintaining the same overall range provides a significant advantage. I drove a BMW 328 with 240 HP and an 8-speed automatic that accelerated faster than my Marauder, despite the Marauder's slight power-to-weight advantage.

This is very true! my other halfs Daily driver is a 09 Mercedes 550 CLS with a 7 or 8 speed auto , hit the gas and its a constant rush of non stop acceleration until you get off the go pedal! so smooth you can't even feel the gear changes.

[chief455]

I had a TCI trans before , never again! TOTAL JUNK! and i don't like the so called six speed deal they have.

The 4L80E is an excellent trans if i were to go that route i would get a Hughes 480LE and mate it to a Gear vendors , the Hughes trans has the 4.6L bell housing (sfi unit) bolted on the trans and is ready to bolt up to the 4.6L , and also comes with its own stand alone controller/ecm.

But keep in mind the trans Xmember will have to moved back as the 480LE is a longer trans than the 4r75W , and the drive shaft will have to be shortened so not exactly a plug and play , but the 480LE is much stronger and has a better 1st gear , and will hold up to 1K rwhp.
without looking, I'd guess cost of said Hughes 4L80E conversion + GV unit would exceed the $8k TCI 6x unit
However, did not know we could swap in a 4L80E with stand alone controller - those things are tough! Many an LS-X car has these swapped in.:cool:

[babbage]

Close ratio spacing using more gears while maintaining the same overall range provides a significant advantage. I drove a BMW 328 with 240 HP and an 8-speed automatic that accelerated faster than my Marauder, despite the Marauder's slight power-to-weight advantage.


perhaps this trans would work with 3.27 gears in the rear - for me I don't want the RPMs too high at 80 mph.

also what are the stock quarter-mile times for the two cars that you're talking about?

[walt460]

Here are the 6R80 gear ratios. (Proving to be a strong trans, way better than 5R55)
1st 4.17 :1
2nd 2.34 :1
3rd 1.52 :1
4th 1.14 :1
5th 0.87 :1
6th 0.69 :1

Gen 2 Ford Lightning 4R100 gear ratios (4R100 is an extremely strong trans)
1st 2.71 :1
2nd 1.53 :1
3rd 1 :1
4th 0.71 :1

One thread on here is a swap of a 5.0L Coyote with a 6R80 into a Marauder, which should make an awesome package. It appears the 6R80 fits into the tunnel and he even used the stock shifter and cable with a modified bracket.

[Black Terror]

4L80E transmission swap was done by Jeff(Mo's Speed Shop) in CWright's car recently.

[96gt4.6]

The 4L80E will fit in the tunnel of these cars no issue.

I used a 4L80E in the turbo Vic I built, no clearance issues whatsoever. However, as stated prior, the mount has to be moved back, and the driveshaft shortened.

Shortening of the shaft was $100, and moving the mount was simple fabrication. Best years to get on 80E's are '97 and up, as they revised the lubrication circuit, and the later ones use a better TCC lockup system. I produced over 600 RWHP through my unit, which was a salvage yard unit with new clutches, and a transgo HD2 kit.

I'm currently installing a 6R80 in my Marauder, and tunnel clearance is no issue with that either. There are pics over on my build thread, in the power adders section.