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Marauderjack
01-29-2015, 03:01 PM
Check out these photos and see if ya see what I see??:eek::shake:
fastblackmerc
01-29-2015, 03:17 PM
Slight bend.
A little work with a BFH and vise and you'll be good to go! :D
WhatsUpDOHC
01-29-2015, 03:21 PM
That must have been some really bad gas, Jack!
Marauderjack
01-29-2015, 03:32 PM
I am at a loss......
THREE BROKEN RING LANDS and a BENT ROD now......LUCKY it didn't go.......BOOM!! :cool:
BTW.....the gas station gave me a report on the gas the day I bought it......the delivery that day was 93.1 Octane!!:(
Do injectors just go bad or did the fuel pump just die....WHAT ELSE COULD IT BE??:confused:
Motorhead350
01-29-2015, 03:40 PM
What was the station?
martyo
01-29-2015, 03:43 PM
WHAT ELSE COULD IT BE??:confused:
A boosted extremely high mileage application being run hard in cold air.
Further affiant sayeth naught.
WhatsUpDOHC
01-29-2015, 03:48 PM
A boosted extremely high mileage application being run hard in cold air.
Further affiant sayeth naught.
Google was my friend
http://www.lawprose.org/blog/?p=2506
martyo
01-29-2015, 03:52 PM
Google was my friend
http://www.lawprose.org/blog/?p=2506
Precisely!!!
WhatsUpDOHC
01-29-2015, 04:31 PM
Has your builder checked the fuel system before installing the new motah?
chief455
01-29-2015, 05:32 PM
A boosted extremely high mileage application being run hard in cold air.
Further affiant sayeth naught.
Ohhh, mine has moderate miles, but I never realized cold air caused risk with boost, my simple thought was colder IAT = no hot charge to detonate.
I'll learn more tomorrow too....
Marauderjack
01-30-2015, 03:40 AM
Parker's Convenience Stores out of Savannah opened a nice new store.....filled up once then the problem!!:( All records and the SC Authorities say it was 93 octane!!:cool:
Fuels system upgraded.......new pump......new filter!!:beer:
Also has rear cooling mod!!:D
sailsmen
01-30-2015, 06:15 AM
Anything can go wrong for a split second and result in catastrophic failure.
Just think about what goes on inside an Internal COMBUSTION Engine that is turning at 5,000+ revs per minute.
Injectors are like light bulbs.
As you know finding the "cause" is crucial or it will repeat.
I would definitely swap injectors or have them bench tested/flow matched at that high of mileage.
My .02
martyo
01-30-2015, 08:24 AM
I would definitely swap injectors or have them bench tested/flow matched at that high of mileage.
My .02
I'll double the money and concur with you. Now we are up to four cents.
Marauderjack
01-30-2015, 03:06 PM
I would definitely swap injectors or have them bench tested/flow matched at that high of mileage.
My .02
Done!!:beer:
Problem now is FORD Racing 39# injectors are back ordered until March!!:mad2: Will 42# injectors work OK or will they be too rich (big)??:confused:
Check these '04 Mustang rods he has...YIKES!!:eek:
martyo
01-30-2015, 04:17 PM
Done!!:beer:
Problem now is FORD Racing 39# injectors are back ordered until March!!:mad2: Will 42# injectors work OK or will they be too rich (big)??:confused:
Check these '04 Mustang rods he has...YIKES!!:eek:
Are you retuning the car?
Marauderjack
01-31-2015, 03:36 AM
Yes Marty.....
It has Diablo Tuning and Steve, like most of you guys, uses SCT tuning!!:beer:
Marauderjack
01-31-2015, 06:51 AM
BTW, has anyone seen the "parting line" on the BIG END of the OEM "sintered metal" rods???:eek: :depress:
It looks like they break the damn things!!:shake: It's cinch ya couldn't mix the caps up!!:rolleyes:
Had I seen this before I probably would NOT have Supercharged an OEM motor!!:(
RubberCtyRauder
01-31-2015, 07:07 AM
sintered rods are used for production because they are dense, lightweight and are very stable after the sinterizing furnace, meaning very little secondary machine work..old cast rods required much more machine work and were subject to porosity depending on the casting process.
Marauderjack
01-31-2015, 07:12 AM
I understand the technology completely......just never imagined the would literally "BREAK" the big end of the rods to separate the halves!!:eek:
After talking to several people I understand FORD has done this quite awhile!!:confused:
How is the "BREAK" actually done and how do they make it break exactly in the center??:cool:
RubberCtyRauder
01-31-2015, 07:27 AM
I would have to see a pic to see what you are talking about. Stamped metal parts that are punched out have a cut band and a break band..it is not punched all the way. Die cast items are overfilled to reduce porosity into overflow pockets and these are trimmed away in a trim die which cuts and breaks the edge/perimeter off.
I understand the technology completely......just never imagined the would literally "BREAK" the big end of the rods to separate the halves!!:eek:
After talking to several people I understand FORD has done this quite awhile!!:confused:
How is the "BREAK" actually done and how do they make it break exactly in the center??:cool:
I don't know technically how it's done, but I do remember the news reports out of Ford when it started, and you are correct, they actually break them to get that rough finish for a perfect fit. No misalignment with these, which is the reason they do it.
Marauderjack
01-31-2015, 07:46 AM
I would have to see a pic to see what you are talking about. Stamped metal parts that are punched out have a cut band and a break band..it is not punched all the way. Die cast items are overfilled to reduce porosity into overflow pockets and these are trimmed away in a trim die which cuts and breaks the edge/perimeter off.
Here are 3 photos of one of the roughest ones I have......some are fairly smooth but at an angle......looks kind CRUDE to me but it must work??:eek::shake:
RubberCtyRauder
01-31-2015, 08:15 AM
Not sure how this is done during mfg.
martyo
01-31-2015, 11:23 AM
Yes Marty.....
It has Diablo Tuning and Steve, like most of you guys, uses SCT tuning!!:beer:
Then swapping the injectors should not be an issue!!
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