i blew another motor, what to buy?

[tylerdurden2816]

So the used V code I had dropped into my Marauder threw a rod and cracked the block in 19k miles. I need to replace the engine yet again. Remanufactured V codes are not cheap, but now I'm afraid to buy a used one again. I'm seeing other 4.6 DOHC engines for sale that are cheaper. What else would work assuming my intake and accessories will all be swapped over? Can I use a remanufactured 03-04 Mach 1 motor? An Aviator? It would need to be a drop in deal as the shop it's at does not do custom work or engine rebuilt type in depth work.

[Bad_S55]

If your heads are still good you cold get a Ford Racing Boss 5.0 stroker short block. Not a bad way to spend $3500. Otherwise a Mach short block is the same, and 99-01 Cobras would work too.

[tylerdurden2816]

I don't think this shop wants to swap heads. So if I bought an 03-04 remanufactured engine it'd be a drop in job? I'm finding them cheaper than V codes.

[tylerdurden2816]

http://m.ebay.com/itm/360450111703?cmd=VIDESC

Maybe this one?

[Zack]

I have a feeling user error is the cuplrit here.
Good luck

[tylerdurden2816]

You're always so helpful... No, it had fresh oil, I was on the highway doing about 75, suddenly the engine started loudly knocking. It did that for about a minute as I tried to get to a ramp, then it blew, smoke and antifreeze everywhere. I can't imagine that's my fault. But regardless of where the fault lies, the engine still needs replacement, so I need a drop in longblock that'll work with what I have.

[mad1stgen]

I have an original 03 Mach1 Engine (8 bolt forged crank) with 1k miles in MI for $3k.

[Bad_S55]

I don't think this shop wants to swap heads. So if I bought an 03-04 remanufactured engine it'd be a drop in job? I'm finding them cheaper than V codes.

As far as I know yes. Machs came with with two different cam sets: automatics had lower durations that redlined at 6000 rpm, and manuals had higher duration that redlined at 6800 rpm. You'll just need to swap the intake manifolds.

[Bad_S55]

I have an original 03 Mach1 Engine (8 bolt forged crank) with 1k miles in MI for $3k.

If only I had engine swap money!!!!!

[tylerdurden2816]

Mad1, thanks, that'd be a deal too, but I have no way of getting that to Belvedier(?) IL where the breakdown happened and my car now currently resides��

[rauder88]

As far as I know yes. Machs came with with two different cam sets: automatics had lower durations that redlined at 6000 rpm, and manuals had higher duration that redlined at 6800 rpm. You'll just need to swap the intake manifolds.

This is not true. All 03-04 cobras, mach 1's, marauders, aviators all had the same camshafts. No difference in cams. The manual mach's do have a higher rev limiter but it has noting to do with cams.

[Bad_S55]

This is not true. All 03-04 cobras, mach 1's, marauders, aviators all had the same camshafts. No difference in cams. The manual mach's do have a higher rev limiter but it has noting to do with cams.

Learn something new everyday!

[massacre]

Thank you for debunking that misinformation, I was about to lol.

[tylerdurden2816]

This is not true. All 03-04 cobras, mach 1's, marauders, aviators all had the same camshafts. No difference in cams. The manual mach's do have a higher rev limiter but it has noting to do with cams.

So will all four of these longblocks be options for me to look for remanufactured?

[ctrlraven]

Mach 1 with a manual trans had a forged crank, ones with an auto trans had the standard crank. All 03-05 dohc motors have the same cams for intake and exhaust.

[MOTOWN]

Thank you for debunking that misinformation, I was about to lol.

Me 3! :argue:

[tylerdurden2816]

Anyone ever deal with Auto Parts Xtreme? I just chatted w them, $2297+$450 core charge shipped for a remanufactured long block. Is that a steal or what?

[stevengerard]

Sounds like a good price to me

[SICAIROSINALOA]

http://www.jasperengines.com/index.php with updates https://webapp2.jasperengines.com/myaccount/updates-fpdirlin.asp?iStock=192010&sType=S

[champ1173]

If only I had engine swap money!!!!!

I was thinkin da same thing! It would have been a lot easier drop in. I paid that for them to pull, rebuild, and install. I know, it sounds like I got a great deal, but I had to pay $2000 more to fix their mistakes. Pinched wires throwing codes, O2 sensors, vacuum lines I couldn't reach or find, etc..

Scott, (OP) I'm really sorry to hear your MM took a crap. Was wondering whatchu been up to. Good luck! You'll get some good advice here.

[ctrlraven]

I'd go with a Jasper motor if I wanted a stock replacement.

[blkZooM]

Well that sucks, good luck on whatever you decide to do

[Spectragod]

I have an original 03 Mach1 Engine (8 bolt forged crank) with 1k miles in MI for $3k.

Seems like a deal for a complete motor with no core involved....

[lji372]

Seems like a deal for a complete motor with no core involved....

+1

I thought about getting it for a JIC motor

[Spectragod]

+1

I thought about getting it for a JIC motor

It's in your backyard, and cash talks....

[SergntMac]

Give these guys a look-see, stuff is top notch, and the money isn't so bad. Could be worth the pain and suffering.

http://www.modularmotorsportsracing.c om/mmr_forged_rebuilds_2v.htm

[na svt]

As far as I know yes. Machs came with with two different cam sets: automatics had lower durations that redlined at 6000 rpm, and manuals had higher duration that redlined at 6800 rpm. You'll just need to swap the intake manifolds.
oh the bad info

[na svt]

Give these guys a look-see, stuff is top notch, and the money isn't so bad. Could be worth the pain and suffering.

http://www.modularmotorsportsracing.c om/mmr_forged_rebuilds_2v.htm

Only go to them if you want pain and suffering

[na svt]

www.car-part.com (http://www.car-part.com)

[SergntMac]

Only go to them if you want pain and suffering


www.car-part.com (http://www.car-part.com)

Car-part.com takes you nowhere of any use. It's a search engine, comes back with suggestions of where you may locate the part(s) you seek. Be prepared for a lengthily search query.

Talk about pain and suffering...

[na svt]

car-part shows an engine eight engines within 250 miles of Woodridge Il.
It also shows there are five Mach 1 Auto engines within 250 miles and seven Aviator engines within 30 miles and probably 15 within 250 miles.

those searches took about 3 minutes with no pain and suffering endured.

http://i59.tinypic.com/6i5emd.jpg

[SergntMac]

Only go to them if you want pain and suffering


www.car-part.com (http://www.car-part.com)

IMHO, car-part.com takes you nowhere of any use. It's a search engine, comes back with suggestions of where you may locate the part(s) you seek. Be prepared for an intense search query. Talk about pain and suffering...

What are we trying to do here? Help a guy out with ideas and resources, right? Naturally, we will suggest that which was a good experience for us, however, others may not have had a likewise good experience with the suggested resource. I respect that, and I am willing to tolerate those who do not agree with my ideas and suggestions, but be a tad more specific, eh? "Stay away from XXX.com" alone doesn't help. Stay away because they are "slow, stupid, used parts sold as new" and so on. Much better advice, eh?

Truth be known, I have done a considerable amount of business with MMR, and find them to be truely professionals I.E. 1) I mailed them a list of features I wanted in a new long block assembly, they replied with a list of their resources, what manufacturers they work with, vendors if you will. 2) I picked the parts I wanted from their list, and allowed them to shop for parts they do not usually stock. 3) They replied with an estimate for my build, with specifications for the components (cams, head work, oil pump, pan, etc.) I wanted to use. Because of disappointments in my past, I decided to test them. I changed a few specs, and they replied, firmly, "we don't do that, and we suggest you do not follow that route. If you must, then go elsewhere". Good, they got scruples, and they stand behind their work. After all, one bad build is all it takes, eh? Just think about the witch-hunt that follows.

4) Next step was commitment, 50% down, they will begin the build. Done. 5) As assembly proceeded, I received e-mails with test results of specific steps. Bench flow numbers behind the port and polish, finals on cam lift and duration, valve clearance, cylinder wall to piston clearance, balancing, and so on. If I was pleased, or not pleased, my build would be set aside until I e-mailed my approval. I liked the numbers produced by my selections, and approved. They replied with a time frame for completion, and when the other 50% would be due. 6) Upon completion, I paid in full, and a ship date projected. 7) Got that e-mail too. Finished, tested, wrapped up and on the truck. Two weeks later, engine delivered. All testing reports on paper and included in the package. Nice detail to have when selling the car, or, making an insurance claim.

One (1) year warranty on the build, three (3) years available at an extra charge. All they ask for, is to inspect all failed parts before they replace anything. That's fair, they can tell when a build has been abused. I took the 3 year option, thinking it may draw a higher dollar if I choose to sell the car down the road. Note: painting the final product is also an option.

This wasn't cheap. I went through the pain of reliable communications, and now I get to suffer through the cost. 9900 bucks. Not cheap no sir, but I got exactly what I wanted, no short-cuts. Took out a short term loan against the title, and had it all paid for (and paid off) in 6 months. You do what you gotta do. The whole process, from first phone call to my signature on the shipping invoice, 13 weeks. The engine was exactly what I asked for, and performs as promised. I recovered a lot of cash by selling off the undamaged parts I replaced, so my investment was a little less. Worth it?

Can't say,, really. Everyone has a different threshold for pain and suffering. But, I am putting down 725+rwhp and 688+rwtq, on a conservative tune with pump gas and a squirt of methanol. To me, it was worth it.

This is my foundation behind my suggestion, my experience with MMR. Your experience may be different, but that needs to be spelled out, not a whispered indictment. Seek out your own best (remember your worst) experience, and speak from that pulpit. Your brothers here deserve no less.

Look over the MMR website, read about the many good things this company has accomplished. Read their history and note their wins. Records, gents. Hard copy records, not second hand stories from "my best buds cousin".

You decide for yourself where to spend your money, K? But, think about MY "pain and suffering" from dealing with MMR.

Y'all be safe.

PS: Why does my screen look funny now? Everything is so tiny I can't read it. Oh well...

[na svt]

Many people have been screwed by MMR's parts, service and assembled engines. As for the info on their site, well any company would tout their greatness.

I know of MMR engines that are running great, and I also know about those that didn't turn out so well and the pain the customers went through in trying to straighten it out.

Most everyone knows about MMR and their reputation and that's where I'm leaving this.

[lji372]

I love car-part.com :lovies:

[RubberCtyRauder]

Car-part.com works fine..it's only a search engine for the junkyards that participate in it..it doesn't list parts from places that are not part of their network which lead to know where. Every place I've used car-part for and bought from, I ask if they get a lot of business that way and they all say yes..

[Bruce Wayne]

yes car-part.com good

[tylerdurden2816]

They quoted me the wrong engine...so I'm still looking.

[tylerdurden2816]

Check this out guys.
http://www.psengines.com/FORD8.htm
The Mark VIII engine is $2600 and the Marauder engine is $3129, why wouldn't I just buy the Mark motor instead? Or the Lincoln Aviator for $2700? aren't both of those identical except for the intake, which would come off of my old motor anyways?

[ctrlraven]

Mark 8 has different heads.

The Aviator timing cover is different I believe.

[tylerdurden2816]

All sold out anyways.

[RubberCtyRauder]

http://forums.corral.net/forums/modular-engine-parts/1951842-30k-4v-marauder-engine.html

[tylerdurden2816]

http://forums.corral.net/forums/modular-engine-parts/1951842-30k-4v-marauder-engine.html

Thank you for the heads up!!! If that motor is still available I'm buying you a case of beer! I joined the forums and messaged him immediately!

[Jeronimojc]

Awesome deal there.


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[tylerdurden2816]

Looks like I might be buying you that case, I'm PayPal ing him the cash tonight!

[champ1173]

How much is shipping? Or are you thinkin of going on a road trip?

[RubberCtyRauder]

Looks like I might be buying you that case, I'm PayPal ing him the cash tonight!


No worries, save your cash, put a fresh tank of 93 in it once it is installed if this falls into place. Save a Marauder:beer:

[tylerdurden2816]

Lol, will do!

[stevengerard]

that is a deal!!!

[tylerdurden2816]

Yeah, I jumped on it!

[frankdc]

When I was getting my quotes to rebuild my 03 Marauder engine, Star Ford in Glendale CA told me that a 4.6 Mustang engine could not be used in a Marauder due to computer issues. I have no idea if this is true. I am having engine issues myself. A loud knock on the rebuild. I've spent too much money fixing the car now I think I'm going to have to get a new engine.

[na svt]

A mustang engine can be installed without any issues