Recommended short block

[Lowndex]

In case I return the 5.0L stroker short block to Ford Racing, I will need a new engine. At this point, my frustration is such, I am willing to spend $ for a drop-in modular replacement that simply need installation and tune. In fairness to my engine builder, I burdened him with my choice for the http://www.roushyatesparts.com/ford-racing-5-0L-shortblock-p/frp-m-6009-a46x.htm. Had he been given the choice, he would have started with a bare block and gone from there. Oh well, hindsight.

I live in CA, where it is illegal to swap out an engine with increased displacement. If I do so, I risk failing CA emission testing via visual inspection. Also, the engine MUST pass CA emissions/smog testing. I keep the stock headers and exhaust.

So, please share 4.6 or 4.6 Stroked to 5.0L aluminum (no iron) short block engine recommendation/s:

1. 5.0L COYOTE 4-VALVE BIG BORE PRO SERIES SHORTBLOCK (http://www.livernoismotorsports.com/products/5.0L-Coyote-4%252dValve-Big-Bore-Pro-Series-Shortblock-%2810%3A1%2C11.5%3A1%29.html)

2. Livernois 4.6L 4-VALVE 298CI PRO SERIES STROKER SHORTBLOCK (url shows 3V, but they make a 4V) (http://www.livernoismotorsports.com/products/4.6L-3%252dValve-298ci-Pro-Series-Stroker-Shortblock.html)

[rauder88]

Isn't the Cobra reman from Ford still available?
If you're going for bare block get a Boss 5.0 block and have your guy build it.


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[Lowndex]

Babbage just recommended:

http://www.livernoismotorsports.com/products/323ci-Big-Bore-Stroker-Boss-Iron-Pro-Series-Shortblock%252d%282V%2C-3V%2C-4V%29.html

[Lowndex]

Isn't the Cobra reman from Ford still available?
If you're going for bare block get a Boss 5.0 block and have your guy build it.


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This is what my engine build wants to do.

[babbage]

This one.

http://www.livernoismotorsports.com/products/323ci-Big-Bore-Stroker-Boss-Iron-Pro-Series-Shortblock%252d%282V%2C-3V%2C-4V%29.html

Have Livernois make it a long block, they will run it and break it in and test it. Send them heads, oil pan, front cover. They should do the timing and degree the cams. Then send it to your local builder and put the ADTR SC kit on it.

Do you have enough gas, fuel system upgrades etc? Kinsler fuel filter kit with big braided lines would be good for you too.

[Lowndex]

This one.

http://www.livernoismotorsports.com/products/323ci-Big-Bore-Stroker-Boss-Iron-Pro-Series-Shortblock%252d%282V%2C-3V%2C-4V%29.html

Have Livernois make it a long block, they will run it and break it in and test it. Send them heads, oil pan, front cover. They should do the timing and degree the cams. Then send it to your local builder and put the ADTR SC kit on it.

Do you have enough gas, fuel system upgrades etc? Kinsler fuel filter kit with big braided lines would be good for you too.

KC, BRG Racing has already planned to install all new stainless fuel lines (increased diameter) and an aftermarket fuel system.

[babbage]

KC, BRG Racing has already planned to install all new stainless fuel lines (increased diameter) and an aftermarket fuel system.

Does it come with a new, bigger filter? and replace the restrictive lines and the bends in them where factory filter goes - it should. Post up some pics when they do it.

I guess if it's all new then yes. duh on my part..

[Lowndex]

Does it come with a new, bigger filter? and replace the restrictive lines and the bends in them where factory filter goes - it should. Post up some pics when they do it.

I guess if it's all new then yes. duh on my part..

I have asked for pictures of the lines as they are formed and installed.

[camelgrundle]

41531. .........

[lifespeed]

Assuming your car is down for the install, why don't you rebuild your stock block with forged parts? You seem to have a competent engine builder, have him rebuild your stock engine to forged.

[MOTOWN]

41531. .........

LMAO!!!! We had better be nice , or he will tell teacher!:beer:

[camelgrundle]

Lol he was the jerk first! Yeah I said it.

[Lowndex]

Assuming your car is down for the install, why don't you rebuild your stock block with forged parts? You seem to have a competent engine builder, have him rebuild your stock engine to forged.

Just from the recommendations to date, better solutions are available.

[camelgrundle]

Just from the recommendations to date, better solutions are available.. If this were true you would not have a 5g paperweight.

[NXSBOB]

http://parts.autonationfordwhitebearl ake.com/engine-blocks/stroker-short-block-5.0l-4.6l-block/m-6009-a46x/

[Lowndex]

http://parts.autonationfordwhitebearl ake.com/engine-blocks/stroker-short-block-5.0l-4.6l-block/m-6009-a46x/

Thank you. Looks like they have been around for a long time.

[NXSBOB]

Thank you. Looks like they have been around for a long time.
They are great. I purchased many parts from them.

[babbage]

41531. .........

lol - yeah it does help. I'll agree this is a bit of a bizarre situation. ;)

You going out to LVD this year? I might make the fall run.

[camelgrundle]

lol - yeah it does help. I'll agree this is a bit of a bizarre situation. ;)

You going out to LVD this year? I might make the fall run.

Yeah man. Hopefully going to make the Hemings event again. Joe should be going with his cars as well. If you can't make that we will arrange something.

[Lowndex]

I just got off the phone with Livernois. 1 and 2 above are their best recommendations to pass CA Smog and retain the stock displacement and aluminum block. Livernois worries iron will be too heavy resulting in ride, braking, traction loss. They are not claiming to be Marauder experts (like here(; just their input.

[lifespeed]

I just got off the phone with them. 1 and 2 above are their best recommendations to pass CA Smog and retain the stock displacement and aluminum block. Livernois worries iron will be too heavy resulting in ride, braking, traction loss. They are not claiming to be Marauder experts (like here(; just their input.

I believe an extra 85 lbs on the front end is a step in the wrong direction. The lighter front end is one of the many small tweaks to the panther platform to make a Marauder. All the small changes taken together make it a different car.

So no offense to those who went with iron blocks, but I wouldn't do it.

[lifespeed]

Just from the recommendations to date, better solutions are available.

. . . . . .

[lifespeed]

. . . Had he been given the choice, he would have started with a bare block and gone from there. Oh well, hindsight.

Where would you find a bare aluminum 4.6L block for a Marauder :confused: You don't happen to have one of those, do you?

[sailsmen]

I believe an extra 85 lbs on the front end is a step in the wrong direction. The lighter front end is one of the many small tweaks to the panther platform to make a Marauder. All the small changes taken together make it a different car.

So no offense to those who went with iron blocks, but I wouldn't do it.

Depends on what you want to do with the MM and how much money you have.

In my case I wanted a car for the drag strip and had limited funds. Very difficult to find a better buy than a Ford Reman Cobra Long Block and it includes a warranty

[1 Bad Merc]

What is wrong with your current block? I have yet to hear of a block failing. Our blocks should be good up to 800-1000hp. Just have your engine builder put the forged parts in it and build a small stroker motor. It will be fine and you will have saved alot of money and have a blast.

No need for a super fancy shortblock especially if your not going to supercharge or turbo it. Just my .02.

[Lowndex]

Depends on what you want to do with the MM and how much money you have.

In my case I wanted a car for the drag strip and had limited funds. Very difficult to find a better buy than a Ford Reman Cobra Long Block and it includes a warranty

Daily driver and amateur street race.

Unlimited funds

[Lowndex]

What is wrong with your current block? I have yet to hear of a block failing. Our blocks should be good up to 800-1000hp. Just have your engine builder put the forged parts in it and build a small stroker motor. It will be fine and you will have saved alot of money and have a blast.

No need for a super fancy shortblock especially if your not going to supercharge or turbo it. Just my .02.

Nothing is wrong with my current block. BRG Racing plans to replace all internal parts with forged ones and sell to whomever wants it.

I want a new block to take advantage of better options and I will supercharge: ADTR Stage 2 Vortech.

[Lowndex]

Where would you find a bare aluminum 4.6L block for a Marauder :confused: You don't happen to have one of those, do you?

http://www.summitracing.com/search/part-type/engines-bare-blocks/engine-type/v8?SortBy=Default&SortOrder=Ascending&tw=bare&sw=Engines%2C%20Bare%20Blocks&N=4294894335%2B4294951399%2B42 94894312%2B4294894330%2B429488 7138%2B4294867550%2B4294856870

Also, Livernois will sell me a bare aluminum short block.

[Lowndex]

I believe an extra 85 lbs on the front end is a step in the wrong direction. The lighter front end is one of the many small tweaks to the panther platform to make a Marauder. All the small changes taken together make it a different car.

So no offense to those who went with iron blocks, but I wouldn't do it.

Livernois said the same thing.

[Triple Threat]

Livernois said the same thing.

Iron block works for me.

[lifespeed]

http://www.summitracing.com/search/part-type/engines-bare-blocks/engine-type/v8?SortBy=Default&SortOrder=Ascending&tw=bare&sw=Engines%2C%20Bare%20Blocks&N=4294894335%2B4294951399%2B42 94894312%2B4294894330%2B429488 7138%2B4294867550%2B4294856870

Also, Livernois will sell me a bare aluminum short block.

I meant you have a usable block in your car already.

[camelgrundle]

I meant you have a usable block in your car already.
It's no use man. Lol

[Lowndex]

I meant you have a usable block in your car already.

Apology. My ignorance sir.

[chief455]

Iron block works for me.
I'll reduce my front weight a little to offset the added iron blocks weight, but it sure isn't a deal breaker.

[justbob]

More like 75 lbs added to a 4,400 brick. Not seeing the issue here.


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[Lowndex]

My engine builder has convinced Ford Racing to pay for shipping and send the purchased short block back 'for analysis'.

Next step is a full refund.