Trilogy installation in process

[Gccch]

Hi all,

It's about time I found a weekend to get going on this project. thinking I had everything I need, I started yesterday around noon after a long night of graduation party.

By tonight around 7 I stopped for the weekend. Made it up to about page 96 n the Trilogy install manual. I say about because sitting here reviewing my progress I can't find page 95. I am held up with the alternator pulley swap and missing nuts to mount it which I will get done somewhere tomorrow.

So far it has gone fairly smooth. The head unit went on fully assembled which was a bit difficult, but in the end this saved a ton of time.

It will probably be until next weekend that I can say it is ready for the cranking tune, but we shall see what the weeknights bring.

[WhatsUpDOHC]

Subscribing!!!

[martyo]

A real man would have done this in the parking lot at Carlisle!!!

LOL!!!

Keep us posted!

[lji372]

Good luck sir


Your going to love it! :bows:

[MMBLUE]

Maybe you can find some pointers or hints on your install here http://www.thechicagogarage.com/forum/marauder-tech/129244-hybrid-trilogy-install.html

As usual, Musclemerec has some good details and pictures throughout the install. :beer:

[justbob]

A real man would have done this in the parking lot at Carlisle!!!

LOL!!!

Keep us posted!


Wearing sandals. Only Sandals. [emoji12]


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[Gccch]

Maybe you can find some pointers or hints on your install here http://www.thechicagogarage.com/forum/marauder-tech/129244-hybrid-trilogy-install.html

As usual, Musclemerec has some good details and pictures throughout the install. :beer:

Thanks for the link. There's some great info in here. I am following the original Trilogy installation, so some of this, like the FRPS mod will not be implemented. I don't know enough about this to include in my project. Need to look into that more.

Thanks again!

[martyo]

Wearing sandals. Only Sandals. [emoji12]


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That made me laugh!

[martyo]

Thanks for the link. There's some great info in here. I am following the original Trilogy installation, so some of this, like the FRPS mod will not be implemented. I don't know enough about this to include in my project. Need to look into that more.

Thanks again!

Greg,

I predict you will call into work sick one day this week just to be able to finish the car up!

[Gccch]

Greg,

I predict you will call into work sick one day this week just to be able to finish the car up!

That's not a bad idea! I will get after it again tonight and hopefully get more of the plumbing sorted out.

[Gccch]

Got up to page 107 tonight (heat exchanger installation) minus a couple steps. Not sure which hose goes where on the intercooler coolant circuit so I need to sort those out. Doesn't help that I took the wife out for Italian, but that's one of those long term investments.

Will drop off the alternator tomorrw since I left it behind today. That's the other missing step. About 32 pages left to go!

[martyo]

Will drop off the alternator tomorrw since I left it behind today. That's the other missing step. About 32 pages left to go!

Greg, are you reusing the alternator that was on your car?

[Gccch]

Yes, Marty. That is the plan per the standard Trilogy set up. What is the issue?


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[martyo]

Yes, Marty. That is the plan per the standard Trilogy set up. What is the issue?


We have found a high incidence of alternator failure when doing Trilogy installs/Eaton swaps and re-using the used alternator.

It may pay to just go ahead and get a new alternator. Then you will not have to worry about pulling the clutched pulley off the alternator. And, you may be able to sell your used alternator and make back some of your money.

Just some of my personal thoughts and observations. You're results may vary.

[Gccch]

ok, good to know. So that is the reason for the pulley swap? The original is clutched and the Trilogy pulley is not? I was wondering what the difference was. I will go with my existing unit. It's been sitting idle for most of it's life!


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[martyo]

ok, good to know. So that is the reason for the pulley swap? The original is clutched and the Trilogy pulley is not? I was wondering what the difference was. I will go with my existing unit. It's been sitting idle for most of it's life!


The clutch will not spin backwards when the alternator is flipped.

[justbob]

Or fit. [emoji106]


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[martyo]

Or fit. [emoji106]


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Tru dat Home Fry!

[Gccch]

Local shop could not remove the alternator pulley. What is needed? Can I do this myself?


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[Sully008]

Did they have the alternator pulley removal tool?

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IIRC, this came with the Trilogy if you bought it new. Easy peasy with this.

[Gccch]

No apparently they did not. I got my kit used from a wreck so I did not get a tool. Now what? Ford dealer?


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[Gccch]

Found something at advanced auto parts which might work


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[justbob]

Anyone one EBay listed for VW or Audi are the same. In a pinch you can get creative with just the right size nut tapped in halfway, the other half in the impact socket.


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[Gccch]

It worked. I am now complete up to page 112 with some jumps ahead. One thing I am unsure of is the alternator mounting. Instructions only cover two lower mounting bolts. What holds the top end?

Also, two wires going to boost gauge shown below. Which goes to which terminal?

Some pics.

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[Pat]

Just an observation: In the picture of the Boost a Pump there is a small wiring harness chaffing on a knife edge of the trunk sheet metal, near the top. FWIW.

[Gccch]

thank you for pointing that out. I will check it out and redress that wire. I also plan to tie up the coil of wire to the control using that "extra" screw hole from my first attempt to mount the boost module.


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[Blackened300a]

It worked. I am now complete up to page 112 with some jumps ahead. One thing I am unsure of is the alternator mounting. Instructions only cover two lower mounting bolts. What holds the top end?

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Nothing holds the top in. It sits on the two bolts and that's it.

[justbob]

No top mounting on alternator.

Boost gauge? You mean Hobbs switch? Orientation doesn't matter.


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[DEFYANT]

Subscribing. Been awhile since a trilogy was installed around these parts! What kit number are you?

[Gccch]

No top mounting on alternator.

Boost gauge? You mean Hobbs switch? Orientation doesn't matter.


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Thanks. I thought this was part of the gauge.


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[Gccch]

Subscribing. Been awhile since a trilogy was installed around these parts! What kit number are you?


I don't know the s/n of this kit. I bought it fully assembled so there is no way to see the number. I would like to know at some pint. Right now I just want to know I didn't damage anything on my pristine MM.


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[RF Overlord]

Thanks. I thought this was part of the gauge. The Hobbs switch is there to trigger the BAP when you get to either 3 or 5 PSI of boost. It's just an on-off switch so polarity is not important.

[Gccch]

Thanks guys. Great assistance as I had hoped would be here for me when the time came. As Marty predicted I am working from home today so I can try and wrap it up. I have the intercooler pump mounted and getting ready to wire it into the fuse box. I found taking the battery tray out was much easier than working from underneath. Of course I do not have a lift so was lying on pavement vs. standing over the top.


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[martyo]

Thanks guys. Great assistance as I had hoped would be here for me when the time came. As Marty predicted I am working from home today so I can try and wrap it up. I have the intercooler pump mounted and getting ready to wire it into the fuse box. I found taking the battery tray out was much easier than working from underneath. Of course I do not have a lift so was lying on pavement vs. standing over the top.


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Atta boy!!!!!!!

[Gccch]

ok guys, I need some help. I have a few missing connections on the vacuum lines. From the rear of the blower I have two ports connected. One goes to passenger side PCV connection on valve cover. The other connects up to the EGR system. I think this is all good. Then on the passenger side I have a spare tube coming from the firewall (brake booster I think). The third connection on the rear of the blower is not connected ot anything.

On the driver side I have a tee which I think connects the CAI to the valve cover and ??

Then from the idle air control valve a tube coming rearward which is not connected. Don't know where this goes either.

I will be wiring the IAT2 sensor then will get back to this later. It will ne my final step other than a few parts to replace up front.

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[Gccch]

Another question. On the IAT2 sensor wiring, Trilogy instructions are a little unclear. I have connected the sensor to the two outer wires to the MAF. So the two wires which were cut are going nowhere. Is that correct?

[justbob]

The two outer wires get snipped off the MAF and redirected to the IAT2 leaving the MAF with only four wires now.

As for the Vacuum lines, the manual was pretty clear on them and I don't recall all of the routing. I remember that there is two under the inlet. One goes to the back of the blower and the other goes to a tee in the line from the CIA to cam cover from what I recall.

The one from the fire wall is for the vacuum manifold.


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[RF Overlord]

If I understand your description correctly, yes.

The two wires that USED to go to the outer connections on the MAF should go to the IAT2. There should now be nothing connected to the 2 outer positions on the MAF connector.

*EDIT* justbob beat me to it...

[Gccch]

oh crap, I did that backwards. I have IAT2 connected to the MAF connector.

[Gccch]

The two outer wires get snipped off the MAF and redirected to the IAT2 leaving the MAF with only four wires now.

As for the Vacuum lines, the manual was pretty clear on them and I don't recall all of the routing. I remember that there is two under the inlet. One goes to the back of the blower and the other goes to a tee in the line from the CIA to cam cover from what I recall.

The one from the fire wall is for the vacuum manifold.


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I think I got you on the driver side lines. I am still not sure about the brake booster line. It is clear about disconnecting it early in the instructions but I can't find anywhere it says where it goes.

[justbob]

oh crap, I did that backwards. I have IAT2 connected to the MAF connector.


That's what I was thinking.

You don't have this page?
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[Gccch]

uhhh, yeah, I do. It's actually very helpful if you look at it. Should have tried that. My bad.

[justbob]

uhhh, yeah, I do. It's actually very helpful if you look at it. Should have tried that. My bad.


Quote of the week. Congrats!


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[martyo]

uhhh, yeah, I do. It's actually very helpful if you look at it. Should have tried that. My bad.

I needed a laugh today! Thanks!

[Gccch]

After a full day of marauder yoga here is where I'm at. I re-soldered the IAT sensor so that's complete, battery is hooked up and the crank file is sitting in my inbox. Problem is the other day I spilled a cocktail into my laptop and it will not turn on. So I must actually go to work tomorrow and use my work computer to connect my tuner and get the crank file. Tomorrow night we will crank it, fill the coolant and look for problems.

Oh yeah, and I need an elbow to get that brake vacuum tube connected.


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[03blackvegas]

This might help.

[8UWITH6]

Good job. Borrow a laptop and fire that thing already ;)

[martyo]

Looks good Greg!

[Sully008]

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Great progress! Reminds me of when I put #196 in. Is that your alternator wire going across the passenger side? Might want to loom that and secure it a little better.

[justbob]

How many miles were on the kit? Those tensioners get fairly weak over time.


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[Gccch]

Mike, Yes that is my alternator positive lead. I decided to move it out of the harness behind the fuse box and run it across from the terminal with a short u-turn. I routed it beneath the blower pulley but will work on tidying it up a bit more. This avoided having to extend the lead. Thanks for pointing that out.

Bob, I don't have confirmed mileage on the kit. That auxiliary tensioner was very tight though! Will have to watch closely as this thing becomes road worthy.

I am really nervous to turn the key tonight. The mistakes I made along the way I will not discuss in open forum. The silly ones I have not noticed are what worry me.

[martyo]

I am really nervous to turn the key tonight.

Make sure you text me!

[8UWITH6]

You will be just fine. Look over everything one last time and make her smoke!

[1stMerc]

If you have an updated tune, no need to be nervous. Just don't go hog wild, and keep your ears and eyes open. You'll be okay.

[martyo]

If you have an updated tune, no need to be nervous. Just don't go hog wild, and keep your ears and eyes open. You'll be okay.

Your advice is sound.

I sent him a cranking file we prepared for him. We will be remote tuning this car.

[Gccch]

Updating the firmware on my SCT4 now. Car is reset to Factory. Software is killing me here! Nice they put wifi on this tuner the updates are coming directly but there are now 355 updates counting down. I wish the tune file could be put on through wifi....


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[Gccch]

ok, looking for any ideas on the sct software problem. here is a pic of what i get to on two different pcs running two differnt OS. I can not get the file from the box up top to the "available tunes" box. It must show there for the arrow button to send it over to the hand held. I know it is connected because it is reading the tunes on my hand held.

Any ideas?

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[1stMerc]

No experience with the new Xcal updater software...yet. Is that the correct extension for your hand held? Did that location come from clicking on "locate custom tunes".

[Gccch]

The extension is right and Yes, the SW finds the file on its own. I verified an older file is working so I think the SW is working. I may be away from the car until Sunday night so maybe no updates over the weekend.

[Gccch]

It's up and runnig! Marty got me a new tune fule this morning and it loaded right up. Took a short ride to check for leaks. No issues found so far! Feeling very relieved to say the least.

We are taking off for an overnight so I will get back to the fine tuning tomorrow night.

Cheeres to all of you for helping me out. as a rookie this was a big job for me. Would not have done it without the support from this forum! :beer:

[MMBLUE]

Great to hear! Happy boosting.

You know what boost gets you right ??? (hmmm overnighter)

[Blackened300a]

Mike, Yes that is my alternator positive lead. I decided to move it out of the harness behind the fuse box and run it across from the terminal with a short u-turn. I routed it beneath the blower pulley but will work on tidying it up a bit more. This avoided having to extend the lead. Thanks for pointing that out.

Congrats on getting it running, I have my alternator wire extended to run out of the fuse box and across the front of the car and to the alternator. I'm not a fan of having the wire any where near the blower and moving parts like the pulley.

[sflrainmaker01]

Nice job! So, it took you a week to get it done? Were you in the garage everyday and night or just a few hours here and there? Just trying to get a handle on how much time it would take to complete from start to finish.

[Gccch]

I started Sunday over memorial weekend and worked from noon to about 7, then Monday all day. I had limited time at night so I did a work from home on Thursday and mostly finished it up (did not do anything else). Three long days I would say. Oh, and it was done in my driveway. Garage is occupied.

[Guittard22]

^^^^^
Now I know who to call when I am ready for my install :)

[RF Overlord]

WTG, Greg!

Bring 'er down for the Father's Day car show in Hyannis. They close all of Main Street. The Blackbird will be there...

[Gccch]

^^^^^
Now I know who to call when I am ready for my install :)


I would be glad to help out!


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[Gccch]

WTG, Greg!

Bring 'er down for the Father's Day car show in Hyannis. They close all of Main Street. The Blackbird will be there...


That's possible. I have to bring my mom down next weekend. If I'm feeling confident with it by then it's very likely!


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[Guittard22]

I would be glad to help out!


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Still
Need that part ?

[Gccch]

I'm seeing a little interference with the pulley hitting the hood lining. Any advice how to secure the lining a little tighter to the hood?


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[RF Overlord]

I'm seeing a little interference with the pulley hitting the hood lining. All the Trilogys do that...some people cut out a little square.

[justbob]

Smaller pulley [emoji106]


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[RF Overlord]

Smaller pulley Smaller pulley = moar boost. Win-Win :D

[1stMerc]

Congrats on getting her running. Have fun...

[Gccch]

Still

Need that part ?


Well I don't need it but would be glad to buy it from you. I don't like having a repaired radiator.



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[RubberCtyRauder]

Nice job!!congrats!!

[lji372]

May I make one suggestion?

Thanks

Oil catch can

Congrats sir :bows:

[Gccch]

May I make one suggestion?



Thanks



Oil catch can



Congrats sir :bows:


Suggestions are very much appreciated!



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[Gccch]

The Trilogy clock starts right at 9000. Remote tuning almost complete. Cold rain has halted final data collection but all is well so far. Learning about catch cans and oiling. Should have paid more attention to blocking that lower port during installation. Too anxious to get it done.

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[RubberCtyRauder]

9000 miles?..Marauder is too young for a Trilogy..:D

[justbob]

9000 miles?..Marauder is too old for a Trilogy..:D


Fixed.


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[nh muscle]

With the hood liner just gut out the insulation behind the liner so it looks nice and use velcro strips to secure it. It will look and perform excellent!

[Sully008]

Congratulations! Welcome to the world of boost from #196.

[Gccch]

Question about the accelerator spring. The one that came with my kit is much stiffer than the stock accelerator spring, so the pedal feel is much different. I prefer the softer pedal. Is it set up this way for a reason by the Trilogy team? I may just try the stock spring but if I the unit needs the extra strength to drop RPMs or some other reason I'd like to know before I go experimenting.

[Sully008]

I don't think there's a real reason for the stiffer spring, if there is I can't remember why. Might just be that it's not worn in. You could try the stock one and see how it feels.

[cer0413]

It's up and runnig! Marty got me a new tune fule this morning and it loaded right up. Took a short ride to check for leaks. No issues found so far! Feeling very relieved to say the least.

We are taking off for an overnight so I will get back to the fine tuning tomorrow night.

Cheeres to all of you for helping me out. as a rookie this was a big job for me. Would not have done it without the support from this forum! [emoji481]
Congrats sir.[emoji106] [emoji106]

[Odinson]

Well done. :burnout: I wimped out and had someone do it. I'm a little jealous. :)

Buy moor tires. :beer:

[justbob]

Question about the accelerator spring. The one that came with my kit is much stiffer than the stock accelerator spring, so the pedal feel is much different. I prefer the softer pedal. Is it set up this way for a reason by the Trilogy team? I may just try the stock spring but if I the unit needs the extra strength to drop RPMs or some other reason I'd like to know before I go experimenting.


I didn't even realize they came with a different spring as I bought mine used as well. So to answer your question, mine was fine for the five years I owned it with the stock spring.


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[Gccch]

I didn't even realize they came with a different spring as I bought mine used as well. So to answer your question, mine was fine for the five years I owned it with the stock spring.


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Actually, while swapping them out I found them to be exactly the same, so I guess the kit used the same spring. It sure has a different feel, but must be something besides the spring. I did notice the alignment of the cable is not as true as the original intake.

[Gccch]

Well done. :burnout: I wimped out and had someone do it. I'm a little jealous. :)

Buy moor tires. :beer:


Well.... It was a lot of work. I would not say you missed out on anything except a lot of worry. I won't share the foolish mistakes I was lucky to catch myself making.

[Gccch]

Does anyone know if I can get through inspections in Mass. with a disabled rear O2 sensor? I think they just look for faults by checking if the system is throwing any codes and that it is in a state of readiness. Can anyone confirm they have successfully done this?

[RF Overlord]

Greg, all of my I/M monitors are turned on so I can't say for sure. I know in MA you can have one monitor not ready, but I don't think you can have any turned off. They discovered that trick 3-4 years ago.

[justbob]

I believe PonyUp failed MA just for having headers and rear o2's off.


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[Gccch]

Took the car out for a short road trip this weekend and put on about 300 miles. It has a vacuum leak so it will be in for smoke test this week which will allow final tuning by Mo's. Have I mentioned how great these guys are? Responses to even my silly questions come back immediately. Tune files in response to data logs are super fast. Amazing support.

I also noticed a high pitched whine during my trip. Its a tough one for me since I have Tinnitus and my ears are generally ringing all the time at almost the exact pitch of this whine. tried some wd40 on pulleys and belts (not all) but no help. I plan to change the SC oil as soon as the syringe on order arrives, but I may give up on that and find one locally as it is on a slow boat from China. At least that will rule out one other obvious location. Also could be the vacuum leak mentioned I guess.

The car runs pretty strong considering I am still taking it easy until final tuning is complete. It is going to be a monster.

One issue on drivability is with the accelerator action. It is very tight and not a smooth transition as I depress the pedal. From very light pedal it makes a jump which feels pretty tight on the foot. Any ideas how to relax the pedal feel and smooth it out will be greatly appreciated!

I have. a business trip this week so won't get back to collecting data until next Saturday. here's an attempt to find the high pitch whine with video if it uploads.

https://vimeo.com/130051673

[justbob]

I would check the blower tensioner pulley. Besides the blower, it is the only used one that you used correct?


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[Gccch]

There is one other which had to be changed from smooth to ribbed. It is the upper passenger side. I tried the wd on the blower tensioner and belt to see if it would change the sound. The other one I tried to hit while not running but I may need to try with better aim. Does that sound like a pulley to you?

[MyBlackBeasts]

Should have paid more attention to blocking that lower port during installation.

What port are you referencing?


I also noticed a high pitched whine during my trip. tried some wd40 on pulleys and belts (not all) but no help.

Sounds like a healthy vacuum or intake leak whistle.

FYI, never use WD40 (anything petroleum based) on a belt. Will cause belt to deteriorate and promote slippage. Use silicone spray for any required diagnostics.

[Gccch]

What port are you referencing?

Thi was regarding the subject of removing the lower port on the intake in order to reduce oiling. I read a little about this during my install but not enough to make the change. A different subject really.

Sounds like a healthy vacuum or intake leak whistle.

FYI, never use WD40 (anything petroleum based) on a belt. Will cause belt to deteriorate and promote slippage. Use silicone spray for any required diagnostics.


Thanks for the tip. If it is the vacuum leak we should find it with the smoke test.

[justbob]

How much vacuum are you drawing?


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[RF Overlord]

Sounds like a healthy vacuum or intake leak whistle.^^^This.^^^

[Gccch]

How much vacuum are you drawing?


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A bit of a rookie here... how can I measure it? I want to guess my boost gauge reading at idle?

[Sully008]

A bit of a rookie here... how can I measure it? I want to guess my boost gauge reading at idle?

This is correct, as long as it's working properly. You should be pulling ~20in.-HG.

[Gccch]

This is correct, as long as it's working properly. You should be pulling ~20in.-HG.

That's where it's at.

[justbob]

Then what you hear is NOT a vacuum leak. If all that sound was a leak then you would be lucky to see 5.

Pick up a couple 6203 bearings and replace them in any suspicious pulley. You just need a few sockets a hammer or vice to drive them out, one or two may have a locking snap ring. Stupid easy. They all take the same size, the only one non serviceable is the small plastic one. Makes no sense swapping entire pulleys, especially when you don't know what cheap bearings they might have used.


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[Gccch]

Then what you hear is NOT a vacuum leak. If all that sound was a leak then you would be lucky to see 5.

Pick up a couple 6203 bearings and replace them in any suspicious pulley. You just need a few sockets a hammer or vice to drive them out, one or two may have a locking snap ring. Stupid easy. They all take the same size, the only one non serviceable is the small plastic one. Makes no sense swapping entire pulleys, especially when you don't know what cheap bearings they might have used.


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Well that is encouraging. I can get after that squeal when I darn well feel like it.

[Gccch]

Got the vacuum leaks smoked out today. JTL had sent an inlet tube with bad threads and the throttle body was evidently slammed during shipment. I should have had more to say about that as I had noticed something not quite right when I connected the cable but hey it's all good! Idles down nicely and the pedal feel is back to what I expected. Very big improvement. Also the EGR showed leakage so I have one on the way for the weekend.

Sadly, I am traveling through the end of the week. Saturday I will have my next retune waiting for me.

This trip I am taking for work. The laser time I went to this place I drove home this new Marauder. This time I will have an entirely new one waiting for me when I return.



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[solo5057]

hey marty do I need to buy the firewire to wire in the wideband to xcal4?

[solo5057]

this is matt from Abilene btw. with the trilogy

[Gccch]

hey marty do I need to buy the firewire to wire in the wideband to xcal4?

You will need a firewire connector (IEEE 1394). I bought one for $5 off Amazon and snipped off the small end then used a beeper to figure out which pin connected to analog 1 & 2. There was a link somewhere with instructions. But if you buy the $10 pigtail from SCT you will save a lot of time. They have the colors identified for you.

Here is what I did:
http://forums.focaljet.com/showthread.php/637315-connecting-sct-x3-to-a-wideband-via-firewire-please-help

Here is the easy way:
http://www.morepowertuning.com/SCT-X3SF3LivewireX4-Analog-Input-Cable_p_1146.html?redirect=1

[martyo]

hey marty do I need to buy the firewire to wire in the wideband to xcal4?


this is matt from Abilene btw. with the trilogy


You will need a firewire connector (IEEE 1394). I bought one for $5 off Amazon and snipped off the small end then used a beeper to figure out which pin connected to analog 1 & 2. There was a link somewhere with instructions. But if you buy the $10 pigtail from SCT you will save a lot of time. They have the colors identified for you.

Here is what I did:
http://forums.focaljet.com/showthread.php/637315-connecting-sct-x3-to-a-wideband-via-firewire-please-help

Here is the easy way:
http://www.morepowertuning.com/SCT-X3SF3LivewireX4-Analog-Input-Cable_p_1146.html?redirect=1

What he said.

[solo5057]

ok thanks. man marty great job so far this thing feels good so far. i'm just waiting to go wot lol love the shift points now!!!

[Gccch]

So today we completed the tuning process. I was away for a few days and was thrilled to have Marty and his team's attention through the entire process today. It was great fun, taking the car through the wide open throttle data logging and checking performance. These guys are amazing to be able to do this from a distance. We encountered some concerns which were swiftly adjusted out of the equation. I had to adjust the boost-a-pump and Marty and Jeff did the rest. Car runs amazingly well and fast. Thanks MartyO!!!!!!

[martyo]

So today we completed the tuning process. I as away for a few days and was thrilled to have Marty and his team's attention through the entire process today. It was great fun, taking the car through the wide open throttle data logging and checking performance. These guys are amazing to be able to do this from a distance. We encountered some concerns which were swiftly adjusted out of the equation. I had to adjust the boost-a-pump and Marty and Jeff did the rest. Car runs amazingly well and fast. Thanks MartyO!!!!!!

Our pleasure Greg!

Glad you're happy with the outcome!

[martyo]

ok thanks. man marty great job so far this thing feels good so far. i'm just waiting to go wot lol love the shift points now!!!

You will be there soon Matt!!!

[solo5057]

I can't wait!!!!:banana2:

[Gccch]

Well, I can finally say my Trilogy install is complete. Took a ride to MO's for some fine tuning and troubleshooting. Fluttering shift points quickly eliminated. Then the slamming torque converter lock was traced to the boost-a-pump switch mounted on the back of the boost gauge. I won't try to explain the details but as soon as Jeff bypassed it the view through my windshield brightened.

Marty and Jeff are great hosts and there are some sweet toys in and around the shop to drool over. My long drive home will be spent contemplating other things in my life vs. reverting my MM back to stock!


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[Gccch]

Marty would probably like me to note the fuel ratios on my tune were perfect upon arrival!


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[martyo]

Well, I can finally say my Trilogy install is complete. Took a ride to MO's for some fine tuning and troubleshooting. Fluttering shift points quickly eliminated. Then the slamming torque converter lock was traced to the boost-a-pump switch mounted on the back of the boost gauge. I won't try to explain the details but as soon as Jeff bypassed it the view through my windshield brightened.

Marty and Jeff are great hosts and there are some sweet toys in and around the shop to drool over. My long drive home will be spent contemplating other things in my life vs. reverting my MM back to stock!


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Marty would probably like me to note the fuel ratios on my tune were perfect upon arrival!


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It was great meeting you In person! Glad you like the results!!!

[chief455]

Well, I can finally say my Trilogy install is complete. Took a ride to MO's for some fine tuning and troubleshooting. Fluttering shift points quickly eliminated. Then the slamming torque converter lock was traced to the boost-a-pump switch mounted on the back of the boost gauge. I won't try to explain the details but as soon as Jeff bypassed it the view through my windshield brightened.

Marty and Jeff are great hosts and there are some sweet toys in and around the shop to drool over. My long drive home will be spent contemplating other things in my life vs. reverting my MM back to stock!


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you drove it to Georgia, tuned by datalog only, dialed it in, and are driving back to Mass?

Dam, I feel like a trailer queen sissy :shake:

great results, you'll be so happy now = congrats!

[justbob]

you drove it to Georgia, tuned by datalog only, dialed it in, and are driving back to Mass?

Dam, I feel like a trailer queen sissy :shake:

great results, you'll be so happy now = congrats!


Your not. Your a man who has had his fair share of issues like me. I call it smart..


Builder Of Badassery

[chief455]

Your not. Your a man who has had his fair share of issues like me. I call it smart..


Builder Of Badassery
:banana: first nice thing anyone said to me all week :beer:

Correct on the fair share of issues, I like to call it 'paying for my education'. Helps me keep doing these builds with an optimistic attitude!

[martyo]

you drove it to Georgia, tuned by datalog only, dialed it in, and are driving back to Mass?

Dam, I feel like a trailer queen sissy :shake:

great results, you'll be so happy now = congrats!

Keep in mind that the remote tune we did was very close to spot on and the visit was really related to getting his shift schedule tailored to him (much like what we did for you except for you we did the shift schedule tailoring remotely).

Turns out Greg's issue with the car was a mechanical one just as we suspected when we were doing our remote work.

[Spectragod]

you drove it to Georgia, tuned by datalog only, dialed it in, and are driving back to Mass?

Dam, I feel like a trailer queen sissy :shake:

great results, you'll be so happy now = congrats!


Nothing wrong with being prepared, I trailer my junk too when I have to go long distance....

[chief455]

Keep in mind that the remote tune we did was very close to spot on and the visit was really related to getting his shift schedule tailored to him (much like what we did for you except for you we did the shift schedule tailoring remotely).

Turns out Greg's issue with the car was a mechanical one just as we suspected when we were doing our remote work.
Hence, my admiration for his brave travels!
I have no doubt your remote work was as good as the car would allow.
I drive a beautiful car as proof of that ;)
Glad he made it safely, I envy that he made it down to meet you guys!

[martyo]

Hence, my admiration for his brave travels!
I have no doubt your remote work was as good as the car would allow.
I drive a beautiful car as proof of that ;)
Glad he made it safely, I envy that he made it down to meet you guys!

The issue was one that would have allowed the car to be driven another 100,000 miles as is - just not to his liking (or Ms. GCCCH's).

[justbob]

Hence, my admiration for his brave travels!
I have no doubt your remote work was as good as the car would allow.
I drive a beautiful car as proof of that ;)
Glad he made it safely, I envy that he made it down to meet you guys!


Correct! It's my junk breaking on the dyno that I fear!


Builder Of Badassery

[chief455]

Nothing wrong with being prepared, I trailer my junk too when I have to go long distance....
:beer: A few times on the side of the road makes you think twice, eh?
We learn anything can happen, even with the best built.
I'm too old for working hard, not smart.

[chief455]

The issue was one that would have allowed the car to be driven another 100,000 miles as is - just not to his liking (or Ms. GCCCH's).
oh, gotcha!

Correct! It's my junk breaking on the dyno that I fear!


Builder Of Badassery
:eek: I've seen that = not pretty. 12 months, $20k, wind it up, BOOM!
Start over.:depress:

[Spectragod]

:beer: A few times on the side of the road makes you think twice, eh?
We learn anything can happen, even with the best built.
I'm too old for working hard, not smart.

I have never been "that guy" on the side of the road, at least if the truck breaks, I can unload the Marauder and get somewhere. Rolling around on DR's really limits were you drive, and how far.

[martyo]

Rolling around on DR's really limits were you drive, and how far.

Since when??? :confused:

[Spectragod]

Since when??? :confused:

Tread wear rating of "0" says so...... to soft for road trips....

[martyo]

Tread wear rating of "0" says so...... to soft for road trips....

Boo boo.

That's why God said let there be more than one set of drag radials!

[RubberCtyRauder]

You should not be palling around with DR anyway , he is a bad influence.

[chief455]

You should not be palling around with DR anyway , he is a bad influence.

^_^ I see what you did there....:P

I have driven Nitto drag radials with 450rwhp and 600rwhp all around, caught in rain - not the best, but never kept me home. In fact, got 20k miles, dozens of races and a couple years out of one set.
Like stall convertors though, it's a preference thing.
Can be done doesn't mean everyone wants to.

[MyBlackBeasts]

I have driven Nitto drag radials with 450rwhp and 600rwhp all around, caught in rain - not the best, but never kept me home. In fact, got 20k miles, dozens of races and a couple years out of one set.

I got my MT's from Motown (used) December 2012. I don't drive it in snow months but from April to November I daily drive it. With many a smoky burnout, MV11 & MV12 + thousands of DD miles not to mention what Motown put on them - still lots of tread left.