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frdwrnch
06-14-2015, 06:33 AM
Anyone having issues with these pumps?
Yesterday I had the second pump failure in a year. This one had me walking so I'm looking at other pump options. The first pump failure was more gradual. In hot ambient temps after extended driving I could see fuel pressure fluctuating and I would get a code P0167 unable to control fuel pressure essentially. When I replaced that pump I took my time, eliminated the KB Boost a Pump, and soldered each connection sealed with heat shrink.
Yesterday was quite hot but had only been driving for about an hour while cruising at 70 mph it shut off like flipping a switch. Fuel pressure did not fluctuate prior to this and fuel pressure was only 10 psi. Being familiar with the wiring I immediately went to all of my connections in the trunk where the Boost a pump used to be, the Inertia switch, the FPDM and the fuel pump relay. There was no excess heat or signs of overheating at these connections, The only splice I have not looked at is the one on the fuel pump where the Aeromotive pigtail is located.. Once I towed the car to the house I verified good voltage to the pump. At this point the pump would not run at all. It just failed. Looking for options...

JBeezy
06-14-2015, 08:00 AM
I've had mine in for approximately 8k miles with no issues, but reading this does make me a little nervous

Edit: I've had the pump in about 1 1/2 years as well.

dmjarosz
06-14-2015, 08:31 AM
I am having issues too.

http://mercurymarauder.net/forums/showthread.php?t=98092

Mine did this after 300 miles. Unfortunately its not under warranty because I bought it about a year and a half ago.

I removed it, checked everything, and re-installed it yesterday except I left the pick-up sock off because I'll probably be in there again.

Everything works fine, though it still sounds different. Duty cycle is down to 19.5% at idle and fuel pressure is always around 39 no matter the driving conditions. So...:dunno:

Blackmobile
06-14-2015, 08:42 AM
Installed mine a little over 2 1/2 years ago (SKU 11140 (http://aeromotiveinc.com/products-page/fuel-pumps/11140/340-stealth-fuel-pump-center-inlet/)), and haven't had any issues. :banana2:

BigM460
06-14-2015, 09:21 AM
Over 2 1/2 years and about 25000 miles on one of mine with out any trouble. Added the 2 pump, but the old one is still running fine.

justbob
06-14-2015, 10:11 AM
My 2 1/2 year one was being commanded by the non upgraded FPDM to raise the fuel pressure up to about 60 when my (then) return less system was cooking the fuel at the engine as indicated by the FRPS on 85* and up days.
Once it hit about 59 it would DROP to 17, 11, 9, engine dies for about an hour.. You get the point.

With the same pump on my new return style I haven't had a bit of issues and it just hums right on along recirculating the fuel instead of dead ending it at the overdriven STUPID HOT Trilogy. So that wasn't the pumps problem.

My 4 month old second one sounds like it's bearings are full of sand since new, really bad around quarter tank, but pumps just fine. I'll be swapping it out soon.

Do you have an upgraded FPDM? You say fluctuating. Do you mean raising to a certain point and then dropping to single digits like mine or just being erratic?


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HBTMD
06-14-2015, 10:41 AM
I have had my Aeromotive Stealth about 1 year now. My MM performs far better than it ever did with the OEM Ford part. :banana2:

Mike M
06-14-2015, 12:01 PM
I have a Stryker pump and when it gets hot out here 102+ the car will vapor lock and shut off. I am not ready to do a return system yet but I may wrap the fuel rail with thermal protective wrap and the fuel line coming into rail. I may even hook up some type of aux fan and have it blow directly on to fuel rail area.

Zack
06-14-2015, 12:48 PM
I have had my Aeromotive Stealth about 1 year now. My MM performs far better than it ever did with the OEM Ford part. :banana2:

That's impossible unless the old pump was bad

Zack
06-14-2015, 12:49 PM
I have a Stryker pump and when it gets hot out here 102+ the car will vapor lock and shut off. I am not ready to do a return system yet but I may wrap the fuel rail with thermal protective wrap and the fuel line coming into rail. I may even hook up some type of aux fan and have it blow directly on to fuel rail area.


Wrap the rails and stop there. Should help immensely

tbone
06-14-2015, 01:05 PM
No issues with mine.

justbob
06-14-2015, 04:31 PM
Wrap the rails and stop there. Should help immensely


Didn't work with mine. [emoji22]


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BigM460
06-14-2015, 05:38 PM
While we're on the subject, why is it that the fuel pressure rises when it's hot?
Does this just happen, or is it supposed to?

justbob
06-14-2015, 06:04 PM
While we're on the subject, why is it that the fuel pressure rises when it's hot?

Does this just happen, or is it supposed to?


It's an attempt to send cooler fuel from the tank to mix with the hot fuel in the rails to prevent boiling.


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JBeezy
07-07-2015, 07:17 PM
I'm back here now, because I think my fuel pump went out tonight. I'm not 100% sure that's what it is but it's sure looking like it. I'd hate to think my fuel filter is clogged within 4k miles

sailsmen
07-07-2015, 08:25 PM
The boil point rises with pressure.

lifespeed
07-07-2015, 08:29 PM
There is something to be said for OEM reliability. Not that I claim to have the answers as to how "OEM" fits with 500+ HP. Anybody try Focus ST or GT supercar pumps?

It is not funny when your fuel pump dies. :(

jwibbity
07-07-2015, 08:37 PM
There is something to be said for OEM reliability. Not that I claim to have the answers as to how "OEM" fits with 500+ HP. Anybody try Focus ST or GT supercar pumps?

It is not funny when your fuel pump dies. :(

Been running a GT pump since I got swapped and its lasted me over 2 years and almost 30k miles :beer:

JBeezy
07-07-2015, 08:54 PM
Does Walbro make a pump that can perform like the AEM340? If in fact it is the pump, I really don't want to go back with the AEM. I've run Walbro for years and never had one go bad

HBTMD
07-07-2015, 09:05 PM
My 2003 MM runs great, except on hot summer days in Las Vegas when it suddenly sputters then conks out. :confused:

It will usually start up and run fine for a while again.

I will probably just go to a Ford dealership and have them put in a new Autocraft fuel pump and assembly. About $1,000 out the door I am told. :violin:

Being broken down when it is 110 degrees or above in Las Vegas can be a dangerous situation.

I never had this problem till I replaced the OEM Motorcraft pump last summer with the Stealth. :shake:

JBeezy
07-07-2015, 09:26 PM
My 2003 MM runs great, except on hot summer days in Las Vegas when it suddenly sputters then conks out. :confused:

It will usually start up and run fine for a while again.

I will probably just go to a Ford dealership and have them put in a new Autocraft fuel pump and assembly. About $1,000 out the door I am told. :violin:

Being broken down when it is 110 degrees or above in Las Vegas can be a dangerous situation.

I never had this problem till I replaced the OEM Motorcraft pump last summer with the Stealth. :shake:
Did you get a modified fpdm? If not, that's probably your issue. I'd try that first. Easy swap as well

Spectragod
07-08-2015, 05:57 AM
There is something to be said for OEM reliability. Not that I claim to have the answers as to how "OEM" fits with 500+ HP. Anybody try Focus ST or GT supercar pumps?

It is not funny when your fuel pump dies. :(

Yep, using a Focus SVT pump and BAP, no issues as of yet, been 4 years.

Marauderjack
07-08-2015, 06:23 AM
Does Walbro make a pump that can perform like the AEM340? If in fact it is the pump, I really don't want to go back with the AEM. I've run Walbro for years and never had one go bad

I put 170K miles one one of these with my ProCharger and only replaced it when the engine was rebuilt 'cause I thought it was time....it still works fine!!:beer: We put another one of these in it!!:bows:

http://www.amazon.com/Walbro-GSS342-Fuel-Pump/dp/B000EVN7W8

JBeezy
07-08-2015, 07:36 AM
If it end up being the pump I'll try some like the Walbro 255 high volume pump or better.

Loco1234
07-08-2015, 12:12 PM
I have 2 Ford GT pumps... one is 10yr old & other is 5yr old. Both are connected via their own FPDM (mod'd). All wirirng between FPDM's & pump's have been replaced with upgraded size wire including direct power feed from battery thru Fuse...

I have never once had a problem with the actually Ford GT pumps... I'm currently pushing 700-800HP

JBeezy
07-14-2015, 05:57 AM
Just wanted to let you all know that it wasnt my pump, it was the hose leaving the pump. I used the hose that was supplied with the Aeromotive pump. It blew out. With that said, any of you using this pump should upgrade the hose before installing or before what you have fails. JustBob supplied the correct part# for the gates hose. 27093 for 5/16". Ask for this part number as I got all different types of hose from the parts stores that they swear would work, but neither was submersible.

frdwrnch
08-09-2015, 05:16 AM
Where can I get a modified FDM?

FordNut
08-09-2015, 06:12 AM
This is interesting. I'm running a single upgraded FPDM and BAP, with dual GT supercar pumps. Never had a problem with them, but I'm afraid my next engine mod will put me over the limit of their capability. I was planning to substitute the twin Aeromotive 340's but if they're problematic I'm not so sure.

JBeezy
08-09-2015, 01:08 PM
Where can I get a modified FDM?
RacerX if I remember correctly.

http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/showthread.php?t=90908

JBeezy
08-09-2015, 01:10 PM
This is interesting. I'm running a single upgraded FPDM and BAP, with dual GT supercar pumps. Never had a problem with them, but I'm afraid my next engine mod will put me over the limit of their capability. I was planning to substitute the twin Aeromotive 340's but if they're problematic I'm not so sure.
BigM460 runs them with no issues from the pumps. My pump is actually still good if you read my post above