Difference in Superchargers

[jay87lx]

I have been looking through a ton of pics of MM's and was wondering what the difference in SC's are?


On top of the engine (Eaton??) Air intake from Drivers side
http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u264/jgsxr1/20141109_113136_zpsvtt6nt2n.jp g

Similar but air intake on Passengers side- Ford factory???
http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u264/jgsxr1/1abad884f20f1c594f5d7ca0862e0c 3a_zpsmg16ymom.jpg







appears to have the air intake on top of the SC?
http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u264/jgsxr1/327d8c02-335e-4d6d-9677-d7b7b073ec35_zps6cgkkvqj.jpg

What are the differences in all these? May seem like simple questions but....

[fastblackmerc]

First off there are no Marauders that came from the factory.

Root type or screw type superchargers:
S/C on the top of the engine & intake on the drivers side = a kit from Trilogy Motorsports specifically made for the Marauder.

S/C on the top of the engine & intake on the passengers side = a kit made up by collecting various Mustang and custom made parts.

Centrifugal type superchargers:
Hair dryer / snail on the front of the engine = a custom made kit or a kit pieced together by the owner.

There is also turbocharged Marauder(s) = all custom made / pieced together.

[Lowndex]

First, wait for real experts on superchargers to answer. Until then, here is my layman knowledge (mostly via Google and my amateur homework).

I believe Eaton is a roots style

Whipple are screw type centrifugal

Vortech and Procharger are Centrifugal Type

http://www.superchargersonline.com/index.php?main_page=page&id=7

[MOTOWN]

First off there are no Marauders that came from the factory.

Root type or screw type superchargers:
S/C on the top of the engine & intake on the drivers side = a kit from Trilogy Motorsports specifically made for the Marauder.

S/C on the top of the engine & intake on the passengers side = a kit made up by collecting various Mustang and custom made parts.

Centrifugal type superchargers:
Hair dryer / snail on the front of the engine = a custom made kit or a kit pieced together by the owner.

There is also turbocharged Marauder(s) = all custom made / pieced together.


First, wait for real experts on superchargers to answer. Until then, here is my layman knowledge (mostly via Google and my amateur homework).

I believe Eaton is a roots style

Whipple are screw type centrifugal

Vortech and Procharger are Centrifugal Type

http://www.superchargersonline.com/index.php?main_page=page&id=7

Ohhhhhh ouchy! Lol oh no he didn't! :argue::flamer::argue:

[Turbov6Bryan]

Good topic

The roots style or screw style that sit on top of the engine are instant power when you mash the gas compared to the centrifugal type blowers that are basically a turbo wheel geared down and spun with a belt

The centrifugal blowers will gradually make more boost with more rpm. This makes it nice for traction, but that gut wrenching torque just isn't there

With the centrifugal blowers, you can over spin them to get more power down low, but you have to waste gate the air pressure so you have drivability. Yes people are venting air, then it closes the gate when you mash the pedal for much less lag in boost. Just google wastegated d1sc

All belt driven blowers use engine power to turn then, and when the belt starts to slip they make less boost

This is where a turbo,up to quadruple turbos shine is because they are free horsepower, they don't rob power from the engine to make more power

If it's forced inducted then I'm a fan of it :)

Jim. Your first sentence lol

[jay87lx]

First off there are no Marauders that came from the factory.

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Geez Fastblackmerc, I know I am new here but damn, gimmie "some " credit-lol

[1stMerc]

First pic = Whipple
Second pic= Roots M112
Third pic = Trilogy

[justbob]

Good topic



The roots style or screw style that sit on top of the engine are instant power when you mash the gas compared to the centrifugal type blowers



The centrifugal blowers will gradually make more boost with more rpm. This makes it nice for traction, but that gut wrenching torque just isn't there



With the centrifugal blowers, you can over spin them to get more power down low, but you have to waste gate the air pressure so you have drivability. Yes people are venting air, then it closes the gate when you mash the pedal for much less lag in boost. Just google wastegated d1sc






My Procharger F1-a is nothing but neck snapping instant boost! (That never stops building)

So much so that it is truly a waste on the street. If you have a proper torque converter/or a manual trans like mine, gears, and a dialed in tune, you should be shredding your tires no matter the MPH.




Builder Of Badassery

[jay87lx]

Can anyone else add pics of different SC setups on MM's that I am missing

[MOTOWN]

My Procharger F1-a is nothing but neck snapping instant boost! (That never stops building)

So much so that it is truly a waste on the street. If you have a proper torque converter/or a manual trans like mine, gears, and a dialed in tune, you should be shredding your tires no matter the MPH.




Builder Of Badassery

I was just about to respond to that post , clearly he hasn't been in the right centrifical car! I love to line up with a twin screw car , i let them have the first 50-60 feet then its all centri after that!
When a centri is properly built there isn't much of a difference in acceleration

[Turbov6Bryan]

My Procharger F1-a is nothing but neck snapping instant boost! (That never stops building)

So much so that it is truly a waste on the street. If you have a proper torque converter/or a manual trans like mine, gears, and a dialed in tune, you should be shredding your tires no matter the MPH.




Builder Of Badassery

Put slicks on it at the track with a 2400 stall , or leave off idle with a stick and you will see and feel the difference between the two style blowers

What I posted I wasn't meaning you can't get rid of the boost lag on a centri, but compared to a roots style blower that won't need a converter to have that instant boost
Centri needs a convertor like a turbo car
My car leaves 11s on the pavement at 80mph with drag radials :)

I bet yours is fun too :)

[justbob]

When we test drove mine with three adults after the tune we lost traction at the 3rd gear shift and lost it again at around 5,500 @ 115 in 3rd LOL 1st and 2nd was just drifting. [emoji15]

Yeah, you can say she's fun!

As for leaving off idle, you win, but I could never force myself to do that! My cars get driven to their potential, no queens here. [emoji4]

I can't wait to run it. But I am FAR away from being track ready currently.


Builder Of Badassery

[Turbov6Bryan]

Very cool! Glad we kinda schmoozed that over
If I had talked about roots style blowers making tons of heat and a detriment to horsepower then I'd got my butt ripped from all those guys!

Jesus. Can't imagine if I mentioned methanol, the Unabomber may have come out of retirement !! Lol

Thanks for staying level headed

[RubberCtyRauder]

Difference too is the size and the amount of psi it can produce. The bigger the blower the better the internal parts and supporting mods need to be

[jay87lx]

Ok, again, I am a newb to SC's. Being that the 2003-04 SVT Mustangs came supercharged wouldn't it be an easy upgrade to get the parts from them?

[Turbov6Bryan]

Ok, again, I am a newb to SC's. Being that the 2003-04 SVT Mustangs came supercharged wouldn't it be an easy upgrade to get the parts from them?

Yes. M112 is the 03-04 cobra eaton aka heaton blower.

Here is my buddies complete kit. http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/showthread.php?t=98466

[jay87lx]

Yes. M112 is the 03-04 cobra eaton aka heaton blower.

Here is my buddies complete kit. http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/showthread.php?t=98466
Would that be similar to what is pictured in pic #2?

[Turbov6Bryan]

Yes sir. That is the SVT eaton m112 from the cobra

[CWright]

I was just about to respond to that post , clearly he hasn't been in the right centrifical car! I love to line up with a twin screw car , i let them have the first 50-60 feet then its all centri after that!
When a centri is properly built there isn't much of a difference in acceleration



Uh......we haven't run yet bubba! :D

[lji372]

Uh......we haven't run yet bubba! :D

Oh boy oh boy!!!!! :popcorn:

[MOTOWN]

Uh......we haven't run yet bubba! :D

I ain't scurred! Errr well maybe a little that car is a true heavy weight! :P

[fastblackmerc]

Geez Fastblackmerc, I know I am new here but damn, gimmie "some " credit-lol

Your second picture - "Ford factory"

[jay87lx]

Your second picture - "Ford factory"

Ahhhhh, my aplogies, i can see why you thought that now. I actually meant "Ford Factory" like from a Mustang, hence the SVT ON THE SC. So i was meaning you can take the Ford Factory parts from the Termi and bokt them to the MM

[RubberCtyRauder]

Ahhhhh, my aplogies, i can see why you thought that now. I actually meant "Ford Factory" like from a Mustang, hence the SVT ON THE SC. So i was meaning you can take the Ford Factory parts from the Termi and bokt them to the MM

Yes, pretty much. It is called an eaton swap. There are specific things the marauder needs. One thing is custom brackets that can be bought thru a member here. There is a sticky post with the eaton parts list

[Lowndex]

Ohhhhhh ouchy! Lol oh no he didn't! :argue::flamer::argue:

What did I do now? lol

[MOTOWN]

What did I do now? lol

Not a thing! Just goofing around :beer:

[Black Terror]

I ain't scurred! Errr well maybe a little that car is a true heavy weight! :P

Let me know when and where you and Chris decide to get it on, would like to see that.

[MOTOWN]

Let me know when and where you and Chris decide to get it on, would like to see that.

Im thinking we could make it a Pay per view event! Lol :banana2::burnout:

[chief455]

Let me know when and where you and Chris decide to get it on, would like to see that.
hmmm, really? Awkward.
I'd watch them race their cars though.....;)

[MOTOWN]

hmmm, really? Awkward.
I'd watch them race their cars though.....;)

Your a very sick man Geoff! Lol

[lji372]

I'd watch the make up %#* :D

[chief455]

I'd watch the make up %#* :D
Sicko - wanna referee, pivot, or be the camera man? :eek:

[lji372]

Sicko - wanna referee, pivot, or be the camera man? :eek:

Not sure what you mean but I'm a team player :D

[CWright]

I'm ready whenever. Oh wait, let let it cool down a little bit more.:P:D:burn:



I bet I leave you at the line!:D

[RubberCtyRauder]

I'm ready whenever. Oh wait, let let it cool down a little bit more.:P:D:burn:



I bet I leave you at the line!:D

Don't be messin up my future car :D

[CWright]

Don't be messin up my future car :D

:D:P:D:P:D:P:D:P

[chief455]

Don't be messin up my future car :D
Same goes for you!:D

we all are going to hand me down cars :banana:

[Lowndex]

What type is the liquid cooled Kenne Bell supercharger (http://www.kennebell.net/KBWebsite/Tech_Info_pg/layouts/LC_pg.htm)?

[RubberCtyRauder]

twin screw

[MOTOWN]

I'm ready whenever. Oh wait, let let it cool down a little bit more.:P:D:burn:



I bet I leave you at the line!:D

Hell you probably will in that torque monster! But its the first one to the 1320:banana2:

[8UWITH6]

Yes. M112 is the 03-04 cobra eaton aka heaton blower.

Here is my buddies complete kit. http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/showthread.php?t=98466

LOL, nice plug thanks homes!

[Nightcrawler]

Ok, again, I am a newb to SC's. Being that the 2003-04 SVT Mustangs came supercharged wouldn't it be an easy upgrade to get the parts from them?

I believe quite a few members have done the Eaton swap.

[chief455]

I believe quite a few members have done the Eaton swap.

We sure have! refer to the Eaton swap sticky at the top of this power adder section :D

[jay87lx]

Seemed to be an informative video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sqYP7YGanYg

[loud2004marquis]

I believe quite a few members have done the Eaton swap.A WHAT?

lHC0J5NRPro

[jflave]

Hell you probably will in that torque monster! But its the first one to the 1320:banana2:
When this happens please video the event, I would like to see you two go down the track side by side. :)

[WhatsUpDOHC]

When this happens please video the event, I would like to see you two go down the track side by side. :)
+1!!![emoji482]