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CWright
11-30-2015, 06:00 PM
One of my HID ballast went bad so I had my shop install these in Headlights and Fogs. These things are great!!

http://i1342.photobucket.com/albums/o776/CDUBMERC/LED%20Headlights_zpsx7elzxvg.j pg (http://s1342.photobucket.com/user/CDUBMERC/media/LED%20Headlights_zpsx7elzxvg.j pg.html)

MOTOWN
11-30-2015, 06:05 PM
Exactly what I will be installing, put a set in LJs blue, there is no comparison going from hid to LEDs.

slickster
11-30-2015, 06:10 PM
Let's see some pics !!!!

CWright
11-30-2015, 06:18 PM
I'll snap some picts when the rain stops.

RubberCtyRauder
11-30-2015, 06:20 PM
Do the mounts in the headlight assembly need altered? Plug and play almost except for some wiring changes?

CWright
11-30-2015, 06:21 PM
Do the mounts in the headlight assembly need altered? Plug and play almost except for some wiring changes?


Plug and play for the most part. I didn't install them but they told me no altering was needed.

MOTOWN
11-30-2015, 07:04 PM
Who ever sold you the hid kit needs to stand behind the warranty, and make it right!

GoldPanther
11-30-2015, 07:20 PM
Interested in watching the leds on.
Are they 9007 replacements?

JBeezy
11-30-2015, 07:46 PM
Subscribing. My HID went out and I just removed them. I'm due for an upgrade. Lets see them even in the rain.
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CWright
11-30-2015, 07:54 PM
Interested in watching the leds on.
Are they 9007 replacements?

Yes


Subscribing. My HID went out and I just removed them. I'm due for an upgrade. Lets see them even in the rain.
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That'll be hard to capture. I don't drive her in the rain. :D

JBeezy
11-30-2015, 07:57 PM
Where did you get them and the cost?

CWright
11-30-2015, 08:01 PM
Where did you get them and the cost?


My shop I use here in Rome got them and installed but here's a link.

Choose 9007 HiLo


http://www.hidny.com/index.php?main_page=product_in fo&products_id=602

FordNut
11-30-2015, 09:01 PM
Interesting. I may have to give these a try.

Jolly Roger
11-30-2015, 09:41 PM
Is this a Hi/Lo kit ?? :confused:

Red Rum
11-30-2015, 10:51 PM
I been put LED head lights on my 04 DTR Mercury Marauder. And I have HID bulbs in the fogs. Looks and shine great. I can see the future at night. Lol

CWright
12-01-2015, 04:49 AM
Is this a Hi/Lo kit ?? :confused:

I did get the HiLo kit.

lji372
12-01-2015, 08:24 AM
I did get the HiLo kit.

how low did you go :rolleyes:

Serge
12-01-2015, 09:16 AM
Pics of light output? Do these reflect as horrible in incandescent housings as HIDs?

blkZooM
12-01-2015, 12:07 PM
Hm very interesting. Maybe Christmas gift to self..

rauder88
12-01-2015, 12:12 PM
Very interested, but I would like to see pictures. I have a set a headlights that i would like to retrofit projectors in, was going to go with HID but may go LED.

jwibbity
12-01-2015, 02:31 PM
Pictures!!!!!!

burt ragio
12-01-2015, 03:31 PM
Very interested, but I would like to see pictures. I have a set a headlights that i would like to retrofit projectors in, was going to go with HID but may go LED.

For the extra money I would go with projectors. They produce less heat & better light spread. Doesn't take much to heat up head light housing to open & reseal. Hardest part is getting them aimed correctly. Morimoto mini projectors can be had for cheap.

CWright
12-01-2015, 03:39 PM
Just don't like the way they look in the housing.

rauder88
12-01-2015, 03:46 PM
For the extra money I would go with projectors. They produce less heat & better light spread. Doesn't take much to heat up head light housing to open & reseal. Hardest part is getting them aimed correctly. Morimoto mini projectors can be had for cheap.

Yes for sure going with projectors either way, just may change my mind on using HID bulbs and go with LED bulb.

Lowndex
12-01-2015, 04:23 PM
Nothing better than genuine Philips HID ballast and bulbs! Far superior to LED - http://www.philipsxenon.com/?gclid=CKac1Lfnu8kCFUOBfgodhO0 JGw

MOTOWN
12-01-2015, 04:58 PM
Nothing better than genuine Philips HID ballast and bulbs! Far superior to LED - http://www.philipsxenon.com/?gclid=CKac1Lfnu8kCFUOBfgodhO0 JGw

LMAO! REALLY :confused: have you even handled, or used LEDs headlights? Clearly not!

Serge
12-01-2015, 04:59 PM
LMAO! REALLY :confused: have you even handled, or used LEDs headlights? Clearly not!

Or projectors for that matter.

Lowndex
12-01-2015, 05:04 PM
LMAO! REALLY :confused: have you even handled, or used LEDs headlights? Clearly not!

Are you say SHE is wrong? :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRqxTl4rxlg

Then again, you may have a point:
http://www.innovativelight.com/hid-vs-led-lighting/
http://www.premierltg.com/light-fights-led-vs-hid/

My thoughts are high quality HID lights produce more light on the road.

CWright
12-01-2015, 05:25 PM
Who ever sold you the hid kit needs to stand behind the warranty, and make it right!

He told me he would send 2 new ballast my way so they would match. He said it might take a little while back on Sept 29. I just Got to a point I couldn't keep waiting and didn't want to drive car with headlight out risking a ticket. Maybe it'll show up soon and I'll have as a back up.

MOTOWN
12-01-2015, 05:43 PM
Are you say SHE is wrong? :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRqxTl4rxlg

Then again, you may have a point:
http://www.innovativelight.com/hid-vs-led-lighting/
http://www.premierltg.com/light-fights-led-vs-hid/

My thoughts are high quality HID lights produce more light on the road.

Do you of all people really want to get into a tech conversation :argue::shake:

MOTOWN
12-01-2015, 05:47 PM
He told me he would send 2 new ballast my way so they would match. He said it might take a little while back on Sept 29. I just Got to a point I couldn't keep waiting and didn't want to drive car with headlight out risking a ticket. Maybe it'll show up soon and I'll have as a back up.

Who could this member be that sold an hid kit , and now isn't standing behind his product, or doing what he said he would do ???????

Lowndex
12-01-2015, 05:53 PM
Do you of all people really want to get into a tech conversation :argue::shake:

Bring it. :banana2:

CWright
12-01-2015, 05:59 PM
Do you of all people really want to get into a tech conversation :argue::shake:


Bring it. :banana2:

:popcorn:..............

Lowndex
12-01-2015, 06:10 PM
Just having fun with you MOTOWN. You did see my supporting references for your position, yes?

MOTOWN
12-01-2015, 06:24 PM
Just having fun with you MOTOWN. You did see my supporting references for your position, yes?

Yes sir:beer:

jwibbity
12-01-2015, 07:33 PM
all these posts and no pictures!!!

JBeezy
12-02-2015, 04:36 PM
Ok Chris, rain has diminished. Lets see those pics.
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CWright
12-02-2015, 05:52 PM
Low Beam

http://i1342.photobucket.com/albums/o776/CDUBMERC/Mobile%20Uploads/7AAB3A1C-FA1F-44C1-9830-655904AE809D_zpswpf2xmdi.jpg (http://s1342.photobucket.com/user/CDUBMERC/media/Mobile%20Uploads/7AAB3A1C-FA1F-44C1-9830-655904AE809D_zpswpf2xmdi.jpg.h tml)

Low Beam with Fogs
http://i1342.photobucket.com/albums/o776/CDUBMERC/Mobile%20Uploads/424BE67A-4F85-45C9-A8E1-857B28AEE32D_zpskvvl4nav.jpg (http://s1342.photobucket.com/user/CDUBMERC/media/Mobile%20Uploads/424BE67A-4F85-45C9-A8E1-857B28AEE32D_zpskvvl4nav.jpg.h tml)

High Beam
http://i1342.photobucket.com/albums/o776/CDUBMERC/Mobile%20Uploads/4FD30D07-C41F-41BC-9202-CE160A5FC202_zpsuvnbre4l.jpg (http://s1342.photobucket.com/user/CDUBMERC/media/Mobile%20Uploads/4FD30D07-C41F-41BC-9202-CE160A5FC202_zpsuvnbre4l.jpg.h tml)

http://i1342.photobucket.com/albums/o776/CDUBMERC/Mobile%20Uploads/A7714D23-CA28-45ED-B217-822D982D0E7F_zpsajeyptct.jpg (http://s1342.photobucket.com/user/CDUBMERC/media/Mobile%20Uploads/A7714D23-CA28-45ED-B217-822D982D0E7F_zpsajeyptct.jpg.h tml)

http://i1342.photobucket.com/albums/o776/CDUBMERC/Mobile%20Uploads/BAA9BE0F-8D4D-473A-A001-29517733511B_zps9z5fljqo.jpg (http://s1342.photobucket.com/user/CDUBMERC/media/Mobile%20Uploads/BAA9BE0F-8D4D-473A-A001-29517733511B_zps9z5fljqo.jpg.h tml)

http://i1342.photobucket.com/albums/o776/CDUBMERC/Mobile%20Uploads/4CB74396-5252-489D-BB75-1BA103B87074_zpsycexg0ki.jpg (http://s1342.photobucket.com/user/CDUBMERC/media/Mobile%20Uploads/4CB74396-5252-489D-BB75-1BA103B87074_zpsycexg0ki.jpg.h tml)

ChiTownMaraud3r
12-02-2015, 06:26 PM
Let us know how many people flash you with that setup. :P

merc
12-02-2015, 07:28 PM
The low and high beams look almost the same. I have a similar problem with my led setup.

CWright
12-02-2015, 07:36 PM
Pictures just does t do them justice. I run 40% tint on my entire windshield and the low beam gives me plenty of light. The Hi's really light up the road. I'm very pleased.

merc
12-02-2015, 07:39 PM
Pictures just does t do them justice. I run 40% tint on my entire windshield and the low beam gives me plenty of light. The Hi's really light up the road. I'm very pleased.

Great to hear you are very pleased. :) I might have to give them a try.

Lowndex
12-02-2015, 07:55 PM
Pictures just does t do them justice. I run 40% tint on my entire windshield and the low beam gives me plenty of light. The Hi's really light up the road. I'm very pleased.

HID's are great, huh? :banana:

CWright
12-02-2015, 08:03 PM
HID's are great, huh? :banana:

These are LED's :D and they are great.

MOTOWN
12-02-2015, 08:07 PM
HID's are great, huh? :banana:

I suppose to confirm LEDs are good we should send them to Vleds for a complete teardown, and inspection, then , and only then will we deem these as great?

See what I did there?:banana2:

GoldPanther
12-02-2015, 08:31 PM
My God , those brights are making me blind even in pictures. Lol

chief455
12-02-2015, 08:53 PM
I suppose to confirm LEDs are good we should send them to Vleds for a complete teardown, and inspection, then , and only then will we deem these as great?

See what I did there?:banana2:
Yes. Inside could be sludge and uneven surfaces. Perhaps a 3rd party inspection? ;)

Lowndex
12-02-2015, 09:02 PM
These are LED's :D and they are great.

Yes, I know. Making a funny.

lji372
12-04-2015, 08:51 PM
Low beam

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/12/04/e1073e575a757eeff163c88d118ce1 2e.jpg

High beam

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/12/04/1c5bac666e74adbfaab6049a9a7f15 49.jpg


http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/12/04/464ccc76cc92c8e40badd80fc52acb 52.jpg

Enough seen :D

RubberCtyRauder
12-04-2015, 08:55 PM
Where's my set ?

lifespeed
12-07-2015, 11:28 AM
Low beam



High beam






Enough seen :D

Did you install the projectors in the housings, or did another member do it?

lji372
12-07-2015, 12:25 PM
Did you install the projectors in the housings, or did another member do it?

i don't do anything myself, ask anybody :rolleyes:

limited360 did them

95ColdBird
12-07-2015, 09:18 PM
CWright, do you have a set of projectors, or is that just a set in the incandescent housings?

CWright
12-08-2015, 05:00 AM
LED in the OEM housing, no projectors.

merc
12-08-2015, 11:11 AM
I just picked up a set of U3 3600LM CANBUS LED HEADLIGHT KIT THREE SIDES SHINE for testing. The picture on the website is not exactly as what you receive. They look exactly like the product on this amazon link:

http://www.amazon.com/Starnill-LED-Headlight-Conversion-Kit/dp/B00ZN5T850/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1449597779&sr=8-2&keywords=9007+led+headlights

The price from amazon is much cheaper also. I installed the LED's last night and I should have some information about how they perform. This is what I have so far.

Pros: the lights are brighter then my last pair of LEDs and don't exhibit shadowing. High beams seem better also.

Con: LED startup is slow
Construction seems cheap
Wiring needed to be reversed (default was 9004).

Serge
12-08-2015, 01:05 PM
I still want to see pics of LED light output on the road surface and not a wall that's 3 feet away.

Zack
12-08-2015, 01:09 PM
I still want to see pics of LED light output on the road surface and not a wall that's 3 feet away.

THIS :violin:

merc
12-08-2015, 01:53 PM
I still want to see pics of LED light output on the road surface and not a wall that's 3 feet away.

I will post a video next week.

CWright
12-08-2015, 02:11 PM
THIS :violin:



Thank you!



I don't drive it much at night but will take Picts when I do. Picts just won't do it justice IMO. Anyway, I'll do my best when I get a chance! ;)

CWright
12-08-2015, 05:52 PM
Ambient 49*, light temp 73*, aiming westward, and 111.36 yards from that house!



http://i1342.photobucket.com/albums/o776/CDUBMERC/Mobile%20Uploads/49DCF21E-20C2-4004-A899-BE07FF6F09C2_zpssjocckpq.png (http://s1342.photobucket.com/user/CDUBMERC/media/Mobile%20Uploads/49DCF21E-20C2-4004-A899-BE07FF6F09C2_zpssjocckpq.png.h tml)
http://i1342.photobucket.com/albums/o776/CDUBMERC/Mobile%20Uploads/3DC6507E-F37F-4BA2-9DFF-DB25A836940A_zpssgsnuar4.png (http://s1342.photobucket.com/user/CDUBMERC/media/Mobile%20Uploads/3DC6507E-F37F-4BA2-9DFF-DB25A836940A_zpssgsnuar4.png.h tml)

lji372
12-08-2015, 06:25 PM
Ambient 49*, light temp 73*, aiming westward, and 111.36 yards from that house!



http://i1342.photobucket.com/albums/o776/CDUBMERC/Mobile%20Uploads/49DCF21E-20C2-4004-A899-BE07FF6F09C2_zpssjocckpq.png (http://s1342.photobucket.com/user/CDUBMERC/media/Mobile%20Uploads/49DCF21E-20C2-4004-A899-BE07FF6F09C2_zpssjocckpq.png.h tml)
http://i1342.photobucket.com/albums/o776/CDUBMERC/Mobile%20Uploads/3DC6507E-F37F-4BA2-9DFF-DB25A836940A_zpssgsnuar4.png (http://s1342.photobucket.com/user/CDUBMERC/media/Mobile%20Uploads/3DC6507E-F37F-4BA2-9DFF-DB25A836940A_zpssgsnuar4.png.h tml)


Are there clouds, and what's the altitude?????? :D

CWright
12-08-2015, 06:32 PM
Are there clouds, and what's the altitude?????? :D

Zero cloud cover, altitude 656 ft. :P

RubberCtyRauder
12-08-2015, 06:36 PM
What's the longitude and latitude?. Jerry wants to know:D

CWright
12-08-2015, 06:39 PM
What's the longitude and latitude?. Jerry wants to know:D

Haha LMAO!

RubberCtyRauder
12-08-2015, 06:40 PM
Haha LMAO!

:beer::banana2:......

lji372
12-08-2015, 07:08 PM
What's the attitude?

What the mood?

What aren't you wearing :rolleyes:

CWright
12-08-2015, 07:12 PM
It's a secret I'll share with you in Louisville! ;)

lji372
12-08-2015, 07:22 PM
It's a secret I'll share with you in Louisville! ;)

For now I'll just lick my phone every time I post on one of your threads.

Weird, tasted salty :D

CWright
12-08-2015, 07:32 PM
For now I'll just lick my phone every time I post on one of your threads.

Weird, tasted salty :D



LMAO! :D......

ledzilla
06-14-2016, 12:27 PM
Sorry to necro post on a thread, but are these the bulbs you used for the fog lights?

https://www.hidny.com/product/h1-18smd/

MOTOWN
06-14-2016, 12:41 PM
One of my HID ballast went bad so I had my shop install these in Headlights and Fogs. These things are great!!

http://i1342.photobucket.com/albums/o776/CDUBMERC/LED%20Headlights_zpsx7elzxvg.j pg (http://s1342.photobucket.com/user/CDUBMERC/media/LED%20Headlights_zpsx7elzxvg.j pg.html)


Sorry to necro post on a thread, but are these the bulbs you used for the fog lights?

https://www.hidny.com/product/h1-18smd/

No , see post #1

ledzilla
06-14-2016, 01:00 PM
No , see post #1
The actual bulbs used for the fogs were never specified. I also checked out the site linked where he said the kit his shop had aqcuired could be purchased. I didn't see the exact kit in that photo on the site, but I also checked for H1 LED bulbs, and that's what I found. So I thought I'd ask if what I found was the same as what was installed.

ctrlraven
06-16-2016, 05:53 AM
There is still no comparing HID to LED. HID with a color K temp of 4300, 4500, 5000 and 6000k using a 35w ballast can produce 3200-3400 lumens. The "high powered" LED headlights are only putting out 2000-2600 lumens. LEDs don't have the balls to throw the light down the road such as HIDs can do.

Now in a projector style headlight, LEDs can do just fine for the simple fact the light is now gathered and focused to projector in a certain area unlike a standard reflector style headlight.

The only real problem using an LED bulb in a standard reflector headlight is the fact the placement of the LEDs on the bulb, they are side emitting. With an HID bulb the light emitting is at a 360 degree angle.

EITHER WAY both are an improvement over standard halogen bulbs, HIDs are brighter and can cost less but life span of the product can vary. LEDs are brighter than halogen, have the potential for a longer lifespan but a legit setup can cost a pretty penny.

MOTOWN
06-16-2016, 07:26 AM
There is still no comparing HID to LED. HID with a color K temp of 4300, 4500, 5000 and 6000k using a 35w ballast can produce 3200-3400 lumens. The "high powered" LED headlights are only putting out 2000-2600 lumens. LEDs don't have the balls to throw the light down the road such as HIDs can do.

Now in a projector style headlight, LEDs can do just fine for the simple fact the light is now gathered and focused to projector in a certain area unlike a standard reflector style headlight.

The only real problem using an LED bulb in a standard reflector headlight is the fact the placement of the LEDs on the bulb, they are side emitting. With an HID bulb the light emitting is at a 360 degree angle.

EITHER WAY both are an improvement over standard halogen bulbs, HIDs are brighter and can cost less but life span of the product can vary. LEDs are brighter than halogen, have the potential for a longer lifespan but a legit setup can cost a pretty penny.

That's just flat out incorrect information , hids can in no way compare to led technology , leds are brighter, instantly power on , and is a cleaner light.

ledzilla
06-16-2016, 08:18 AM
It also depends on which LED bulbs you get. Yes, there are plenty that only have the two sides and limit their directional output. But there are better ones like the ones the OP had installed. And if they can start making headlight LEDs like my front turn signal bulbs, cornering lamps, and reverse lights, all of which are round and covered in LEDs to project light in myriad directions, they'll be even better.

ctrlraven
06-16-2016, 09:53 AM
That's just flat out incorrect information , hids can in no way compare to led technology , leds are brighter, instantly power on , and is a cleaner light.

Technology - Yes LEDs are technologically superior to HIDs, that was never up for debate. Hence why a lot of auto manufacturers are doing away with HIDs and going LED. OEM HIDs first hit the market in 1991 on the BMW 7 series, LEDs are just now starting to really come on the market in vehicles. BMW's new Laser Headlamps will be the next lighting phase.

Brighter - HIDs bulbs between 4300-6000k produce more lumens than an LED counterpart bulb of the same "color range". A 24w LED headlight bulb puts out around 2400-2600 lumens in 6000k form, a 35w HID headlight bulb puts out 3200 lumens in 6000k form. With both HIDs and LEDs around 20% of the lighting output is lost between bouncing around in a reflector and/or passing through a projector lens. Retrofitting is what I am talking about, now if you compare Audi's old HID lighting vs their new LED lighting, the LED setup looks brighter because it was designed to be so from the ground up.

Yes, LEDs don't have a warm up time like HIDs do.

Cleaner light is subjective due to the device that is projecting the light. Too many variables due to the quality of the bulbs (HID and LED), housing of the headlight reflector and it's shape/depth, projector whether it was designed for a Halogen or HID bulb, the bowl shape in the projector and the lens used on the projector.

https://image.spreadshirtmedia.com/image-server/v1/compositions/1006741822/views/1,width=235,height=235,appeara nceId=231,backgroundColor=f9f9 f9,version=1465297176/-Trust-me,-I-m-an-electrical-engineer.jpg

As I stated in my earlier post: EITHER WAY both are an improvement over standard halogen bulbs, HIDs are brighter and can cost less but life span of the product can vary. LEDs are brighter than halogen, have the potential for a longer lifespan but a legit setup can cost a pretty penny.

lifespeed
06-16-2016, 09:59 AM
It is not so much a problem of LED vs HID, the fundamental issue is the reflector must be designed with the light source in mind to correctly focus and aim the beam. So unless you retrofit a projector style of lamp which comes with a reflector (presumably) designed for the light source it isn't going to work correctly.

I agree LED is the way of the future, and they are getting there in terms of raw lumens output. However, beam shaping and cutoff are all important aspects of headlamp design that aren't addressed by plugging a bulb into a factory reflector designed for a halogen.

ledzilla
06-16-2016, 01:17 PM
My inadvertently starting a discussion when I was curious about LED H1 bulbs used in an install not withstanding...

Can we conclude, given an OEM Marauder headlamp and comparable color temperatures, that an HID setup provides the best illumination compared to available options, but if modified with projection lighting, current LED tech can compete with HID in terms of effective illumination?

MOTOWN
06-16-2016, 02:14 PM
My inadvertently starting a discussion when I was curious about LED H1 bulbs used in an install not withstanding...

Can we conclude, given an OEM Marauder headlamp and comparable color temperatures, that an HID setup provides the best illumination compared to available options, but if modified with projection lighting, current LED tech can compete with HID in terms of effective illumination?

No we cannot , because Hids is outdated technology, and LEDs are superior in every way.

ledzilla
06-16-2016, 02:30 PM
Even given that our cars are outdated in technology and aren't designed to effectively use LED headlights? For the most part, I'm talking stock headlamp shape. The HID bulbs are similar to halogen and can better utilize the standard parabolic reflector than LEDs in their current designs. If LED bulbs can be created that can better emit multidirectional light, then, with an unmodified headlamp, I believe I can agree with you overall.

What we really need is some actual hard data to compare light output and coverage. There isn't enough objective empirical evidence, and too much supposition and opinion.

Granted LEDs are better technology than HID, and HID is better technology than halogen, we're still left determining which is better for the application. From what is being said, the conclusion seems that for anyone that hasn't modified their headlights into projector style, HID yields the best illumination results. For those that have done this modification, LED can do the best. And regardless of whether the modifcation has been done, they both outperform standard halogen bulbs.

MOTOWN
06-16-2016, 03:05 PM
Here's something that always irritates me with parts , modifications , and actual hands on experience , i do not agree that there has been some magical declaration that oem headlight housings don't work well with Leds , or Hid kits , I've personally used , and installed both , and have no issues with either , there's always that guy on every forum throwing around technical terms on this , and that ,but can't replace a light bulb!
It's very interesting that some attempt to speak on hardware they have 0% experience handling, or using.

lifespeed
06-16-2016, 03:14 PM
I've personally used , and installed both , and have no issues with either

You're not the one who will have issues with a headlight "upgrade", the guy driving towards you on the other side of the road will. ;)

MOTOWN
06-16-2016, 03:22 PM
You're not the one who will have issues with a headlight "upgrade", the guy driving towards you on the other side of the road will. ;)

Funny you should chime in i was just thinking about you! :rolleyes: Err i have HIDS in Silver headlights, and fogs , i never get flashed for blinding oncoming traffic ,and i have only had them in the car since 2004!

I installed LED headlights , and fogs on the Coyote Marauder , and clear Xpel , it looks amazing! And does not blind oncoming traffic, so there goes that theory out the window! :shake:

**WARNING THIS IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN BASELESS THEORY, AND REAL WORLD EXPERIENCE **

CWright
06-16-2016, 03:36 PM
I've spoke my peace on this. It's not technical for me and I've had the factory, HID, and now the LED setup in my car. The LED provides much better lighting for me so as long as I can see, I'm good. You guys can take the technical crap and keep on debating till you're blue in the face. If you're watching this thread and on the fence go for it , spend the money and buy both setups or find someone who has HID and someone' who has LED and compare for yourself. It's really a simple thing!

MOTOWN
06-16-2016, 03:43 PM
I've spoke my peace on this. It's not technical for me and I've had the factory, HID, and now the LED setup in my car. The LED provides much better lighting for me so as long as I can see, I'm good. You guys can take the technical crap and keep on debating till you're blue in the face. If you're watching this thread and on the fence go for it , spend the money and buy both setups or find someone who has HID and someone' who has LED and compare for yourself. It's really a simple thing!

Exactly!!!!!!!!!! Drops da mic , and walks away! :coolman:

chief455
06-16-2016, 05:05 PM
so, which would be the best pen flashlight - projector, halogen, HID, LED, STD, HIV?

please reply because I need a good flashlight to change my blown Marauder lights.

BAD MERC
06-16-2016, 07:13 PM
I have a 10-year-old Bixenon HID kit in mine. They work great and even define a flat horizon against a wall. The light output is brilliant 8000K as are the foglamps. Both kits are old and finally I have an arcing high beam that's now not working and have decided to replace the kit with something more current. I have personally driven against my own oncoming car and have gotten NO uncomfortable oncoming glare or hot spots with the current HID kit. Once you have a car with HID or LED lamps, everything else is equivalent to a gas lantern. I was on another forum where they absolutely ban the discussion of HID conversion in lamps made for filament bulbs. I will emphasize if you do a conversion, make sure the light output is controlled and you won't be endangering or annoying oncoming traffic.

ChiTownMaraud3r
06-16-2016, 08:02 PM
HID with projector retrofits FTW if you want a proper, non-poverty looking upgrade in lighting.

lji372
06-16-2016, 08:37 PM
HID with projector retrofits FTW if you want a proper, non-poverty looking upgrade in lighting.

This is the route I went.

A side by side in person comparison would settle this. Hey Motown bring up the turbo car and I'll click on hid projectors :beatnik:

MOTOWN
06-17-2016, 04:23 PM
This is the route I went.

A side by side in person comparison would settle this. Hey Motown bring up the turbo car and I'll click on hid projectors :beatnik:

Errrr no can do Bubs! Coyote is in the shop for tuning!:D

lji372
06-17-2016, 04:25 PM
Errrr no can do Bubs! Coyote is in the shop for tuning!:D

Not done yet? Wtf:P

MOTOWN
06-17-2016, 04:40 PM
Not done yet? Wtf:P

Paul Masson said it nearly a century ago himself , we shall serve no boost before it's dyno date!

Stay boosted my friend! :P