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    Key won't turn

    Started my car and moved it out the garage and shut it off in the driveway. Hour later put the key in the ignition and it won't turn...tired the spare key, same issue. What is up with this?

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    Turn your steering wheel, sounds like itís against the lock


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    Or the tumbler puked. Not a fun job when the key doesn't turn.

    I've got my fingers crossed for you that steering pressure has the lock pinned like Spectragod said. GL!

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    Marauders don't have a locking steering wheel....I even tried to push up the release button that is on the ignition switch...No Luck
    if the tumblers are gone... How do you take out the ignition switch?

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    The steering wheel locks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bluesboyst View Post
    Marauders don't have a locking steering wheel....I even tried to push up the release button that is on the ignition switch...No Luck
    if the tumblers are gone... How do you take out the ignition switch?
    It locks internally when you turn tumbler to the position to remove key.

    Occasionally when shutting engine off the steering wheel return force will tightly trap the locking pin. (This happens with many cars ever since the pin wheel lock design was implemented many decades ago)

    Grab the steering wheel firmly and try to turn it slightly back & forth while trying to turn the key.

    If that doesn't work, 99.999% the tumbler puked.

    Replacing the tumbler when the key can be turned is a DIY job.

    Replacing the tumbler when key doesn't turn is a job for a professional.

    Good luck!

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    I can turn my steering wheel even with the key out of the ignition.......Is this not suppose to be like that ?
    I did some reading in the owner manual and it states that in ignition position 3


    2. LOCK, locks automatic transmission gearshift lever and allows key removal.

    3. OFF, shuts off the engine and all
    accessories without locking the steering wheel. This position also allows the automatic transmission shift lever to be moved from the P (Park) position without the brake pedal being depressed.

    I wonder if somehow I was able to pull the key out in this position 3. I am going to try moving the shift lever....
    Last edited by bluesboyst; 10-06-2019 at 03:52 AM.

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    My wheel has never locked.


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    Thanks, At least I know that I am not the only one that can turn the wheel even with the key out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bluesboyst View Post
    Thanks, At least I know that I am not the only one that can turn the wheel even with the key out.
    If your steering wheel turns, then the tumbler puked.

    The tumbler is retained in the column by a detent pin, the pin will only release when the tumbler is in the run position.

    This is why a tumbler replacement is easy if the key turns.

    When the key doesn't turn, it requires a lot of cutting, drilling which is best done by a professional that knows how to do it and prevent damaging the column causing it to have to be replaced.

    Good luck!

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    BTW I have read on here numerous times and seen other examples in person of non locking steering wheels.

    Maybe yet another Ď03/Ď04 difference?

    But google shows a few in the past with your issue as needing a new cylinder.


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    My Ď04 wheel locked, maybe mine was a 1 off, seems to happen to me more often than not


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    Quote Originally Posted by Spectragod View Post
    My ‘04 wheel locked, maybe mine was a 1 off, seems to happen to me more often than not


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    I've certainly had mine lock before in my 04, I never tried to lock it in the 03
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    I will be calling a locksmith this week. Now if the lock cylinder has to be drilled out the tumblers are ruined of course. Can the new lock cylinder be rekeyed to use the old keys? Can it be rekeyed just from the original keys?

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    Quote Originally Posted by justbob View Post
    BTW I have read on here numerous times and seen other examples in person of non locking steering wheels.

    Maybe yet another ‘03/‘04 difference?

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    I never paid attention to mine, just assumed it locked like every car since the mid 70's.

    Now I'll have to check it to see.

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