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    No ceramic coating needed...

    I got a call from Nick at Kooks this morning.

    He explained that the ceramic coating isn't needed as the headers are stainless.

    My full header back kit should arrive within 2-3 weeks.


    So I save $250. Looks like that PI Converter isn't too far away


    Hope the headers don't get too discolored...I plan on showing the baby.
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    You'll be sorry. Look at Cruztaker's post about this in the other thread you've started. Even he admit's that his Kooks headers turned colors. He says that he likes the change, but I wouldn't, and you might not. But the fact is that they WILL change colors due to heat unless you get them coated. Like I've suggested to you before, forget about Kooks coating them for you. Send them out. there are plenty of places on the net for this, but I'd probably recommend "Jet Hot".

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    mine changed to gold in a few days..maybe they will start to turn blue soon, but I like it too. I wrapped the starter with heat shield..and all is well. to each their own.. I hear ceramic coating does not adhere well for very long to stainless??

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    I agree I would never do LTH with out having them coated it not only extends there life it also helps hold the heat down.

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    Billy's right...There is a heat trasnsfer benefit to ceramic coating that helps the headers do their job in moving hot gasses away from the cylinder head and the combustion process, as well as keeping engine compartment temps under control too. But, this is just IMHO/.02c, I suppose we'll all learn something new about this two years down the road, when we want to refinish our headers, or, repair dried out wire looms, which ever come first.

    As for ceramic coating sticking to stainless, well, I can't say much, other than to say I've not read any reports on that here, or, at other sites I frequent. If anyone has some first hand 411, please speak up?

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    I heard it from Nick at Kooks, which is partly why they don't recommend it on stainless headers... I have no opinion from personal knowledge on the matter... and someday a cowl hood will take care of the underhood temps..

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    It's all in the choice.

    Mine have several thousand miles and I personally like the bronze look. There is no indication that they will ever turn blue, and the under hood temps are A-OK so far on some long azz trips.

    Good luck, and happy headering!
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    Donny and I got the chance to tour one of the largest coating companies in the Southeastern U.S. last Friday. http://www.headercoatings.com/ Jerry Mobley gave us a rather in-depth education to the benefits of Ceramic Metallic Coating (NOT Jet Coating...which is a brand/process) and how their process works. We got to see spraying going on, the oven process and finished products that would blow you away. There is NO concern with ceramic coatings adhering to stainless steel, and anyone who tells you that...has no idea what they speak of.

    Get them coated!

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    Maybe you wanna see what the coating looks like??It's not kooks but i belive it is the same coating?Compliments of Kenny Brown #8
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    Quote Originally Posted by BillyGman
    You'll be sorry.
    I agree with this for sure. Look at some 10-15 yr old Mustangs with the OEM stainless headers. They look as nasty as cast iron manifolds.

    Quote Originally Posted by darebren
    I hear ceramic coating does not adhere well for very long to stainless??
    I researched this before I had mine coated, no problems.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TAF
    Donny and I got the chance to tour one of the largest coating companies in the Southeastern U.S. last Friday. http://www.headercoatings.com/ Jerry Mobley gave us a rather in-depth education to the benefits of Ceramic Metallic Coating (NOT Jet Coating...which is a brand/process) and how their process works. We got to see spraying going on, the oven process and finished products that would blow you away. There is NO concern with ceramic coatings adhering to stainless steel, and anyone who tells you that...has no idea what they speak of.

    Get them coated!
    Yes, definitely get them coated! I am surprised with Kook's recommendations not to do so, but one thing I've learned when modding my car is that for every mod you do, somebody will advise against it for some reason.

    Especially since you want to show the car. Here are shots of my headers. These are "Jethot" coated from Ford Racing.

    I've heard of people putting ceramic mettalic coating on their pipes as well.
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    I wanted them coated...just passing on what Nick at Kook's said.

    I'll check around here about getting them sent out to be coated once I get them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FiveO
    I wanted them coated...just passing on what Nick at Kook's said.

    I'll check around here about getting them sent out to be coated once I get them.
    Great idea. Nick told me the same thing, so I found a local coater to do it. Cost less, but took some time.
    Thanks to Darrin @ BC Automotive:
    $1800 and it was worse than when he started!

    Brian (FordNut) FPG # 1458 of 7838
    03 MM 300A (Lotsa mods, 130k mi) was 303rwhp/318rwtq N/A
    then 476/410 D1SC ProCharged on stock block
    then 660/555 D1SC PC on 5.3 wet sleeved Teksid alum big bore stroker
    then 365/369 N/A on 5.3 wet sleeved Teksid alum big bore stroker
    Now 751/617 3.4L Whipple on 5.3 Boss5.0 iron big bore stroker

    03 MM 300B Silver (Mostly stock, originally wife's car, 370k mi) FPG # 7053 of 7838 or 49 of 417 SB
    03 MM 300B Silver, Stock, wife's next one, 136k mi FPG # 7134 of 7838 or 89 of 417 SB
    04 MM Silver, Stock, on standby 85k mi, FPG # 1212 of 3214 or 432 of 997 SB
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    Quote Originally Posted by MarauderMark
    Maybe you wanna see what the coating looks like??It's not kooks but i belive it is the same coating?Compliments of Kenny Brown #8
    Yep...That's exactly what mine still look like today on Kenny's @1x, brand new. 'Cept they were installed just after MV-I last September.

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    These are off to be coated...and obviously off the car. Yeah...the gold may look cool now...but ceramic metallic coated to a polished chrome look will be even better...and forever.

    Them be some headers, huh folks??!!




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