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    JB, thanks. I see this part uses 14G wire. Aero is recommending 10G (!) for the same wiring.
    The fuse that came with the booster is a 40A; I think the Aeromotive can draw up to 30A.
    Unfortunately, I am a chem E, not an EE, so I do not know if the 14G wire on this part that you sent me link to is sufficient for 30A.
    Theory is one thing, but in practice, is it your experience that 14G is sufficient?
    Thanks
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    JB, thanks. I see this part uses 14G wire. Aero is recommending 10G (!) for the same wiring.
    The fuse that came with the booster is a 40A; I think the Aeromotive can draw up to 30A.
    Unfortunately, I am a chem E, not an EE, so I do not know if the 14G wire on this part that you sent me link to is sufficient for 30A.
    Theory is one thing, but in practice, is it your experience that 14G is sufficient?
    Thanks
    -KK

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    All wiring is rated by the foot, and if in a house conduit, the number of wires also plays a part due to heat but thatís getting super deep.. So letís simplify by experience.

    I canít recall offhand the highest amp rate/foot off hand besides somewhere around 10amp/10í as being close. You are well under that between the FPDM and the pump.

    If it helps you rest I used this kit on mine along with their added dual pump relay kit and all my power came from the battery on a fused 0G wire to a distribution box mounted just to the right of the spare tire on the back wall of the back seat. From there I fed a speaker amp, a sub amp, and power for the fuel pump relays.

    The only part of the original wiring bung I retained was for fuel level sender. I took the other two wires and simply wrapped them around the assembly for the time being. The new bung that I showed you powered my twin 340ís with its four wires. I no longer used the FPDM as I went to a return style fuel loop. Anyways my pumps were so efficient that Jeff at Martyís said we could easily dial her up mid to upper 800ís at the wheels and every supporting system was up to par (except the current clutch and lack of head studs) Plenty of fuel, air, mafÖ

    They also claim itís not to be used in returnless fuel systems and yet weíve done it for decades without failure and adding boostapumps as well.

    Anyways, here was mine.







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    Great photos JB. Really very helpful. Got it.
    Thanks!
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    Aeromotive is also plagued by counterfeit pumps being sold in USA via eBay and other sites. They have a high failure rate.

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    Aeromotive fuel pump might be the problem

    Quote Originally Posted by MyBlackBeasts View Post
    Aeromotive is also plagued by counterfeit pumps being sold in USA via eBay and other sites. They have a high failure rate.
    Very true. I purchase almost all parts that matter thru Summit when possible.


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    Quote Originally Posted by justbob View Post
    All wiring is rated by the foot, and if in a house conduit, the number of wires also plays a part due to heat but thatís getting super deep.. So letís simplify by experience.

    I canít recall offhand the highest amp rate/foot off hand besides somewhere around 10amp/10í as being close. You are well under that between the FPDM and the pump.

    If it helps you rest I used this kit on mine along with their added dual pump relay kit and all my power came from the battery on a fused 0G wire to a distribution box mounted just to the right of the spare tire on the back wall of the back seat. From there I fed a speaker amp, a sub amp, and power for the fuel pump relays.

    The only part of the original wiring bung I retained was for fuel level sender. I took the other two wires and simply wrapped them around the assembly for the time being. The new bung that I showed you powered my twin 340ís with its four wires. I no longer used the FPDM as I went to a return style fuel loop. Anyways my pumps were so efficient that Jeff at Martyís said we could easily dial her up mid to upper 800ís at the wheels and every supporting system was up to par (except the current clutch and lack of head studs) Plenty of fuel, air, mafÖ

    They also claim itís not to be used in returnless fuel systems and yet weíve done it for decades without failure and adding boostapumps as well.

    Anyways, here was mine.







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    JB, what would you say is the best method for making the hole in the hatch cover for the new bulkhead? Is a drill press required? Will and hand held drill do?
    thanks


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    These work great for thin/sheet metal. You can use a hand drill.

    https://www.irwin.com/tools/browse/d...it-step-drills
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    You "feel" the difference because you want to "feel" the difference. Since you just spent money on the upgrade you "have" to feel the difference

    I'm looking to eliminate the double pump process I have to follow right now to get the pedal hard

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    Quote Originally Posted by blazen71 View Post
    These work great for thin/sheet metal. You can use a hand drill.

    https://www.irwin.com/tools/browse/d...it-step-drills
    .
    This is the best to use. Hand drill is fine but I like to drill a pilot hole and not burn up the step bit. I honestly recall it being a little difficult to drill thru. Could have been my bit I suppose. Get a Milwaukee brand step bit from Home Depot. All others are junk.


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