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    You could un-plug the FPDM (Fuel Pump Driver Module) cycle the key a few times then plug it back in and see if it fires. The FRDM is in the trunk on the drivers side. You'll need to pull back the trunk liner to gain access to it. If it's bad, any Crown Vic or Grand Marquis FPDM will work. $15 - $25 at a salvage yard.

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    Sounds like no injectors are firing. First check all fuses. If all are good then start it a couple of more times on starting fluid and see if it trips a crank sensor, cam sensor, or MAF code. All three can shut off the injectors.


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    If you unplug an injector lead and hook a volt meter up to the two terminals and crank are you getting anything ?
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    I will try that today. Thank you. I do have 12 volts at plug with key on. I actually have power AND ground with key on at the plug.
    Last edited by Mass Marauder; 06-11-2022 at 06:56 AM.

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    The fpdm is not tripped. I hear the fuel pump and gauge goes to 60 psi. does this switch kill electricity or mechanical block of fuel? The picture I found of the module looks like it is an electric cut off.

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    The fuel pump inertia switch in the trunk cuts the electricity to the pump.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mass Marauder View Post
    I will try that today. Thank you. I do have 12 volts at plug with key on. I actually have power AND ground with key on at the plug.
    I am not sure but i think the injector has power and the computer pulses the ground. If you have pulsing power or ground and fuel to the injector, may seem unlikely but sound like all 8 are stuck. if you pull injectors is there a place around that can clean and test?
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    return line?

    Where is the fuel return line for this car? I was thinking to pinch it off to see if she might start. I see the fuel rail and supply line. Is the return in the rear between the heads? I would like to get an aftermarket manual for this car but none available. Would a Grand Marquis or Mustang manual help with some of my questions?

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    I don’t believe the car has a return fuel line.
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    Marauders use a returnless system.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TORINO View Post
    I am not sure but i think the injector has power and the computer pulses the ground. If you have pulsing power or ground and fuel to the injector, may seem unlikely but sound like all 8 are stuck. if you pull injectors is there a place around that can clean and test?
    Correct. It pulses the ground.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mass Marauder View Post
    Where is the fuel return line for this car? I was thinking to pinch it off to see if she might start. I see the fuel rail and supply line. Is the return in the rear between the heads? I would like to get an aftermarket manual for this car but none available. Would a Grand Marquis or Mustang manual help with some of my questions?
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    Well, i have got my Marauder running after 12 years of being stored. The injectors were plugged. Thanks to all for your input.
    Last edited by Mass Marauder; 06-26-2022 at 11:38 AM.

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    Thank you for updating us! Makes us feel complete...at least those like me who have been wondering!!! Cheers!
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    I would suggest even if the FPDM is fine get one and keep it in the glove box. If it goes it will do so w/o warning.

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