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    Big Brake Kits

    Are there any big brake kits out there that will pretty much bolt on and fit behind the stock wheels without ridiculous spacers? I have seen Baer brakes on some cars but the calipers on their website right now looks different from the ones I have seen on other members cars?
    2004 Mercury Marauder, Black
    2008 Crown Victoria P71, Silver
    2010 Crown Victoria P7B, Black
    2010 Crown Victoria P7B, White

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    You "feel" the difference because you want to "feel" the difference. Since you just spent money on the upgrade you "have" to feel the difference

    I'm looking to eliminate the double pump process I have to follow right now to get the pedal hard

    2004 300A Procharger #0010 D1X
    2003 300A Procharger #0017 D1SC (SOLD. Last I heard, it was in Washington State)

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    Quote Originally Posted by blazen71 View Post
    This is the best kit for your MM.
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    Here is the budget option. It's basically the old Baer kit but with off the shelf, easy to get parts. Someone posted that C6 calipers will work and have less flex.


    https://www.mercurymarauder.net/foru...ight=big+brake
    You "feel" the difference because you want to "feel" the difference. Since you just spent money on the upgrade you "have" to feel the difference

    I'm looking to eliminate the double pump process I have to follow right now to get the pedal hard

    2004 300A Procharger #0010 D1X
    2003 300A Procharger #0017 D1SC (SOLD. Last I heard, it was in Washington State)

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    Oh wow, so the older Baer kits used C5 calipers? Does the TCE kit require any grinding or is it a simple bolt on? Seems like the budget option requires grinding?
    2004 Mercury Marauder, Black
    2008 Crown Victoria P71, Silver
    2010 Crown Victoria P7B, Black
    2010 Crown Victoria P7B, White

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    Quote Originally Posted by JVD View Post
    Oh wow, so the older Baer kits used C5 calipers? Does the TCE kit require any grinding or is it a simple bolt on? Seems like the budget option requires grinding?
    So little it really isn’t worth mentioning to be honest.


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    You mean the TCE kit?
    2004 Mercury Marauder, Black
    2008 Crown Victoria P71, Silver
    2010 Crown Victoria P7B, Black
    2010 Crown Victoria P7B, White

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    No, the budget kit that is on hundreds of Marauders, Vic’s, and Town cars by now. Too easy.


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    Cobra short block / ProCharger F1-A / Cog drive upgrade / Manley valves / Brian Tooley Racing valve springs / 80# inj. / -8 fuel line / -6 return / Aeromotive 340 pumps and regulator / 2012 GT500 TR6060 six speed / twin disc clutch / Driveshaft Shop GT500 upgraded CV joint shaft / BA5000 blow thru MAF/ 4.10's / Ford Racing 31 spline set up and Girdle / Metco D.S. safety loop / Stainless Works headers, cats, and everything else out back / ClassGlass hood / Bob's hood strut mod / Hurst line lock / Metco control arms / Addco front and rear sway bars / Monroe severe duty shocks all around / Race concepts rotors / Badgeless grille / 35% tint / FBM's interior LED kit and ambient lighting kit / Pioneer FB700 deck / kenwood speaker 4 Ch. / Rockford Fosgate 10" sub and amp / Kicker 6 X 8's all around / back up cam / bluetooth / Pioneer Xm / 704 RWHP 603 RWTQ tuned by Mo's Speedshop.

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    Nice! Do they clear the original wheels without spacers?
    2004 Mercury Marauder, Black
    2008 Crown Victoria P71, Silver
    2010 Crown Victoria P7B, Black
    2010 Crown Victoria P7B, White

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    Yes, and no spacers. I still had credit card clearance between the caliper and the wheel weights too.




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    Cobra short block / ProCharger F1-A / Cog drive upgrade / Manley valves / Brian Tooley Racing valve springs / 80# inj. / -8 fuel line / -6 return / Aeromotive 340 pumps and regulator / 2012 GT500 TR6060 six speed / twin disc clutch / Driveshaft Shop GT500 upgraded CV joint shaft / BA5000 blow thru MAF/ 4.10's / Ford Racing 31 spline set up and Girdle / Metco D.S. safety loop / Stainless Works headers, cats, and everything else out back / ClassGlass hood / Bob's hood strut mod / Hurst line lock / Metco control arms / Addco front and rear sway bars / Monroe severe duty shocks all around / Race concepts rotors / Badgeless grille / 35% tint / FBM's interior LED kit and ambient lighting kit / Pioneer FB700 deck / kenwood speaker 4 Ch. / Rockford Fosgate 10" sub and amp / Kicker 6 X 8's all around / back up cam / bluetooth / Pioneer Xm / 704 RWHP 603 RWTQ tuned by Mo's Speedshop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JVD View Post
    Nice! Do they clear the original wheels without spacers?
    Please take the time to read thru the post first before asking all the questions that were already asked, and answered.
    You "feel" the difference because you want to "feel" the difference. Since you just spent money on the upgrade you "have" to feel the difference

    I'm looking to eliminate the double pump process I have to follow right now to get the pedal hard

    2004 300A Procharger #0010 D1X
    2003 300A Procharger #0017 D1SC (SOLD. Last I heard, it was in Washington State)

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    Zack's Big Brake Kit is not a Baer conversion. It is a great kit put together by Zack and Jerry. Kit performed great on my Marauder for many years, was able to do Tail of Dragon without any fear of Brake fade.
    Bill
    03 Mercury Marauder, 300A
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    I had both the 1st gen Baer kit and the Zack/Jerry kit. What would I know?
    You "feel" the difference because you want to "feel" the difference. Since you just spent money on the upgrade you "have" to feel the difference

    I'm looking to eliminate the double pump process I have to follow right now to get the pedal hard

    2004 300A Procharger #0010 D1X
    2003 300A Procharger #0017 D1SC (SOLD. Last I heard, it was in Washington State)

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    Quote Originally Posted by JVD View Post
    Oh wow, so the older Baer kits used C5 calipers? Does the TCE kit require any grinding or is it a simple bolt on? Seems like the budget option requires grinding?
    Quote Originally Posted by Black Terror View Post
    Zack's Big Brake Kit is not a Baer conversion. It is a great kit put together by Zack and Jerry. Kit performed great on my Marauder for many years, was able to do Tail of Dragon without any fear of Brake fade.
    The original Baer BBK that came out back when these cars were new (the kit they sell now is totally different/better) and the "DIY" BBK setup using C5 calipers both use the same style PBR twin piston caliper. SN95 cobras used this same caliper as well (albeit with different mounts). The PBR caliper was real popular in the 90's and 00's. So yeah, it's not "Baer" branding and it doesn't use a 2 piece rotor like the original Baer BBK, but the caliper is virtually the same and it is running a 14" rotor like the original BBK.


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    To Baer or not to Baer, that is the question...

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