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    Is chrome hot or what???

    The question has come up several times, "does chrome make a stock engine
    run hotter"? We're talking temperature naturally, not performance. As you can see from the photos I have several items chromed on my Marauder engine. Why? Well........that's just the way I like it. Today I had the opportunity to do a little research on this subject and I thought I would pass my results on to the members of our site. What I did was take my bone stock MM next to a bone stock none chromed MM and measure the temperature at several of the same spots on both engines for comparison. Please understand, I am not representing this as any sort of scientific controlled lab test but just what I observed. I started out letting both run at Idle for 20 minutes to make sure they reached operating temps and the fans had come
    on and the thermostats open. All temps are Fahrenheit. The outside temp was 80 degrees. I used a Raytek Minitemp pyrometer "ray gun" and I tried to take all readings at about 1 foot but most important I tried to make sure
    that each comparison reading was at the same distance.

    To start, the fenders measured 100 (stock MM) 101 (chrome MM). this was just to see that both were in the sun approximately the same.

    The upper part of the radiators when measured through the grill were 112 for the stock MM and 116 for the Chrome MM.

    OK now here are the results I saw;
    Upper coolant hose at the Radiator 168 stock, 158 chrome motor
    Lower hose, approximately at the center of the curve 163 stock, 147 chrome
    Upper coolant pipe 174 stock, 135 chrome
    Vertical hose to coolant pipe, 163 stock, 157 chrome
    Center of intake manifold 124 stock, 116 chrome
    Right cylinder head front 159 stock, 126 chrome
    Right cylinder head REAR 173 stock, 152 chrome
    Please notice how much hotter the right rear runs, no surprise though
    Left cylinder head front 160 stock, 129 chrome
    Left cylinder head rear 158 stock, 120 chrome

    One thing I need to mention that I feel is important is that the stock MM had
    20,000 miles on the clock while mine only has 3,000. I am sure that because
    of this mine tends to run somewhat cooler. I think it also shows that a coolant system flush and maybe a conditioner is important to our engines.
    I guess that my answer to the original question "does chrome make your
    stock street engine run hotter" is "Nope, not really and if it does, not so you
    can tell".

    There ya go my friends.
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    Last edited by rumble; 10-01-2004 at 02:55 PM.
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    Nice job, Rumble, great post. If anything, it seems the chrome one runs cooler, and looks fantastic to boot. Was it possible to measure the cooling fluid temp?

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    Very interesting data, thank you.

    Could you please cover the head temps again? "Right/left" do not help me much, "driver's side/passenger side" explain more.

    Thank again!

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    Quote Originally Posted by SergntMac
    Very interesting data, thank you.

    Could you please cover the head temps again? "Right/left" do not help me much, "driver's side/passenger side" explain more.

    Thank again!
    Sorry my good friend. To me right, left, front back is always from the drivers seat. Therefore right would be passenger side, left would be the drivers side.
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    I was always told that chrome was not good for racing because it holds the heat in. Maybe that's why the outside temps are lower. I've also been told that polishing aluminum will hold heat in because you are sealing the pours that let it breath. Just what I've been told!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Poore
    Nice job, Rumble, great post. If anything, it seems the chrome one runs cooler, and looks fantastic to boot. Was it possible to measure the cooling fluid temp?
    Yes I did but I neglected to write it down. If I remember correctly
    it was 126 or so for both cars at the reservoir. Very good question though.
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    chrome holds in the heat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDealer
    I was always told that chrome was not good for racing because it holds the heat in. Maybe that's why the outside temps are lower. I've also been told that polishing aluminum will hold heat in because you are sealing the pours that let it breath. Just what I've been told!!!
    That's interesting, Ray. With that in mind, I guess it's really important to know the fluid temp.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDealer
    I was always told that chrome was not good for racing because it holds the heat in. Maybe that's why the outside temps are lower. I've also been told that polishing aluminum will hold heat in because you are sealing the pours that let it breath. Just what I've been told!!!



    Ray, I've heard the same thing and my experience with racing engines
    was to try and make everything black for heat dissipation, I would think
    if that were true here then the hoses would be hotter though.

    It may be that the heat retention is much more of a
    factor on racing engines than just a stock street motor..

    It might be interesting to really flog these cars and then do the checks
    to see if we have the same results.
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    Maybe a little off subject...

    Pics don't do this car justice. I was glad to read the temp. data- interesting stuff but I swear to y'all- you can't imagine how great this Marauder looks under the hood. It's very nice!!!!!!!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by rumble
    Sorry my good friend. To me right, left, front back is always from the drivers seat. Therefore right would be passenger side, left would be the drivers side.
    I thought these references were standard .... I have always used rumble's reference system as well. Everything relative to the driver's view.
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    Thumbs up

    I believe the external temp is lower, but the internal engine temp is higher. As far as hurting anything. I doubt it. My cars have always had chrome galore. By the way, looks GREAT!!! RAY

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    Gary,.. looks great! ..and I'm glad to hear those temps aren't too high!!

    I know you've told me that your water temp guage hasn't shown much of a heat increase.

    I wonder how close the stock temp gauge gets to true temp.?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Petrograde
    Gary,.. looks great! ..and I'm glad to hear those temps aren't too high!!

    I know you've told me that your water temp guage hasn't shown much of a heat increase.

    I wonder how close the stock temp gauge gets to true temp.?
    Probably only slightly better than our faux oil pressure gauge. I have noticed no increase whatsoever in the temp gauge reading though. If there is any increase it's less than the gauges ability to measure.

    Hey, you ought to like those valve covers, they use to be yours.
    My My, what that TAF started.
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