Stock block, ProCharger F1-A, 11 lb boost, 11 degrees timing, 518 RWHP.
How long is this bottom end going to hold up?
http://www.modularfords.com/forums/s...ad.php?t=18791
Stock block, ProCharger F1-A, 11 lb boost, 11 degrees timing, 518 RWHP.
How long is this bottom end going to hold up?
http://www.modularfords.com/forums/s...ad.php?t=18791
Thanks to Darrin @ BC Automotive:
$1800 and it was worse than when he started!
Brian (FordNut) FPG # 1458 of 7838
03 MM 300A (Lotsa mods, 130k mi) was 303rwhp/318rwtq N/A
then 476/410 D1SC ProCharged on stock block
then 660/555 D1SC PC on 5.3 wet sleeved Teksid alum big bore stroker
then 365/369 N/A on 5.3 wet sleeved Teksid alum big bore stroker
Now 751/617 3.4L Whipple on 5.3 Boss5.0 iron big bore stroker
03 MM 300B Silver (Mostly stock, originally wife's car, 370k mi) FPG # 7053 of 7838 or 49 of 417 SB
03 MM 300B Silver, Stock, wife's next one, 136k mi FPG # 7134 of 7838 or 89 of 417 SB
04 MM Silver, Stock, on standby 85k mi, FPG # 1212 of 3214 or 432 of 997 SB
01 F150 longbed
01 F150 shortbed
00 F150 4x4 stepside
01 F150 4x4 7700
68 Stang FB (70 351C 4V, 4 wheel discs, project car)
Mods listed here (some items not current): FordNut's Mods
Wow! Almost unbelieveable, eh?
Now that I have my engine out and have had my fingers (and eyes) on the stock internals, I have to say that 500+ RWHP is quite possible with a stock Intech 4V engine, and they have proven this. Durability? Longevity? Only time will tell, and there is a lot more ahead to...Umm..."meter out?"
AFR is the critical key to it all, tuning is everything. You would think that 11 pounds of boost with a centrifugal blower is on the edge, but many of the roots based cars among us are above 11 PSI. I think Lidio is pushing 13 PSI? So, if all things we know and consider in this are true, I'd guess that it's not a matter of the bottom end, but more a matter of keeping the head gaskets in place. If 500 + RWHP is possible with 11 PSI, and safely, there's going to be a lot of us out in our garages over this coming winter.
At least they made it through two dyno pulls, and you got to love them for going for it.
I agree w/MAC's statement about the Air/Fuel ratio being important. I'd also like to point out though that according to what I've been told by a knowledgeable engine tuner, along w/the AFR being important, the ignition timing advance curve is even more important to the life of engine's equipped w/any forced induction which ofcourse includes S/Cing.
Your dead on billy.
Although the total amount of boost is indeed important to total power output, the timing and fuel curves play a HUGE role on where your power ends up.
example: on 100% equivalent motors, a car making 10 PSI of boost can make much more power with a lean fuel curve and advanced iginition timing than a 13 PSI car with more fuel and less timing.
I've been into forced induction for quite a few years now, and I can comment from first hand experience. The power the Mach 1 makes in the sited thread really isn't too impressive at all actually. His tune is definitely too aggressive and the motor will eventually burn down. To make 500+ hp on only 11 PSI is nuts. Its a time bomb.
And this has NOTHING to do with whether the stock block can handle 500+ hp.
The better way to make 500+ hp, assuming the stock block will live as long as the owner wants under that power level, is to run 13+ PSI with a richer fuel curve and much less ignitiion.
But, when you do that, you end up with power gains from 11 PSI that are much less "impressive" to those that do not know any better I'm glad they are planning on a new block. It'll grenade from detonation sooner than it will from too much power.
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