Sticky: Difference between a 2003 300A and a 300B

[maineiac]

I have a late production 300b that came with a full size spare .

[SC Cheesehead]

I have a late production 300b that came with a full size spare .

Me too.

What's your production number?

[DOOM]

So are there different stall torque convertors between the 03-04's?

If so what are the part numbers?

Ok so I guess nobody knows.

[maineiac]

My production # 7649

[DWSTANG67]

Ok so I guess nobody knows.

Looking at post #33 from SergntMac has the info your looking for

here is a copy of it

My 300A had heated mirrors, came on with the rear defogger.

Traction control and heated seats were promised as stock Marauder features in '03, but did not appear until the 300B production. They are stock features in '04.

Ummm...My HVBoM reports for both my '03 300A and '03 300B say...

All '03 Marauders have the 4R70W tranny, P/N 2W3P-7000-AA.
All '03 Marauders have a 2800 stall 11.25" TC, tranny part number
PKECF.
All '04 Marauders have a 2800 stall 11.25" TC, tranny part number
PKE3H.

Both versions of this tranny for the Marauder features a brazed turbine/impeller, 1" one-way clutch and gear set from the 5.4L 2V F-150. The '04 4RW75 version added the improvements listed about by Drock, i.e. teflon seals, needle bearings ect. No change in Torque convertor performance reported.

Ford reports stall speeds as engine/model specific, and written as a range, from light throttle/coasting to WOT total maximum efficiency.

Pre-'03 CV 4.6L 2V engine...2094 to 2440 RPM
Pre '03 CV/PI 4.6L 2V engine...2319-2750 RPM
'03-'04 Marauder/Mach I 4.6L 4V...2555-3011 RPM
'03-'04 CV-GM 4.6L 2V...2031-2374 RPM
All '03 and up CV/PI 4.6L 2V...2372-2808 RPM

That's what my book says. Now a note on what my Dealership parts guy says. He says that I cannot order a factory torque convertor brand new. That piece comes new only with a complete and brand new tranny assembly. You can buy a reman, and they sometimes buy Ford, and sometimes buy locally, depending on who's paying the bill. Local is a lot cheaper.

Engine code for the '03 300A is 3G-120-AA, PN 3W1Z-8052-AA, black valve covers, single knock sensor.
Engine code for the '03 300B is 3G-120-AB, PN 3W1Z-8052-AA, black valve covers, single knock sensor. Four catch codes, I don't remember the first. It was short lived, but followed by BMDO, CRD0 and CRD1.
Engine code for the '04 300A is 4G-120-AA, P/N unknown, unpainted valve covers and dual knock sensors. Catch code for all is MAV2

I now drive a 300B, it has an underhood light, and I have map pockets.*

Hope this helps, carry on gents.





*I installed the map pockets myself, can't live without them.

[GreekGod]

... Engine code for the '03 300A is 3G-120-AA, PN 3W1Z-8052-AA, black valve covers, single knock sensor.
Engine code for the '03 300B is 3G-120-AB, PN 3W1Z-8052-AA, ...

"-8000-" basic parts numbers would be radiator/cooling system numbers. engine numbers are in the 6000 series, so 3W1Z-6052-AA would probably be the engine assembly/long block part number.

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[SC Cheesehead]

My production # 7649

Mine's 7,792, so both of ours were very late 2003 builds.

The theory I've heard on the full sized spares is that there were some leftovers in inventory and they were used up late in the run to "clean house" prior to start up of the 2004 models.

[Logizyme]

All Marauders have oil coolers.

the HVBOM for the marauder I am looking at buying 698977 says
"LESS ENGINE OIL COOLER"

also has:
audiophile
cd changer
anti-spin tract brakes w/o IVD
manual parking brake release
cargo net
manual fuel release
engine compartment light
mini spare
heated seats
2003 job #2 program control

[GreekGod]

the HVBOM for the marauder I am looking at buying 698977 says
"LESS ENGINE OIL COOLER" ...

Reading through this link may explain:
http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forum...ghlight=cooler

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[Logizyme]

^ i dont see what relevent info that has there.

all of the ford modular engines have the same oil filter adapter gasket, which serves as the gasket for the oil filter adapter which is also the coolant inlet, ford designed it this way so that they could use 1 block design and use a different oil filter angle/location and water inlet angle/location to fit a specific car, so an f-150, e-150, mustang and crown vic may all have the same block, but each have a specific oil filter adapter so that the filter and water inlet are fitted for the specific engine bay.

this adapter alone is not an oil cooler, while oil and coolant both go through it, they are not put close enough to each other for the coolant to effectively cool the oil.

this is why on many f/e-150's there are coolant lines going down to a oil cooler situated on/near the oil filter adapter gasket, or why on crown vic police models, there are 2 oil lines going from the oil filter adapter gasket to an oil cooler situated on the lower radiator hoses.

I believe the oil filter adapter and lower radiator hose is the same for all 03-04 panthers, so it should be easy for either the factory or an owner to install the adapter from a CVPI with oil cooler lines, and cut the lower rad hose and install the cooler, hook it up and have a working oil cooler. I've never looked for one on a marauder so I cant say if the've ever had them.

[GreekGod]

I was misinformed - '03-'04 Marauders did not come with engine oil coolers.

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[Motorhead350]

300A's have white plastic water guards in the doors, 300B's are clear.

[guagesluggish]

mine is 2003 km/h, so I'm all mixed up I seem to have a bit of everything, all I know is its black so its faster and I love it

[TP Derrick D]

Back in the game again!!! After crashing and totaling "Blackular" my '03 300A, I found another Black 300A in Conroe,Texas at Gullo Ford via Cars.com. Called to see if internet was updated and was car still available? He said yes but someone suppose to come see it today. Me & my 19 y.o grandson take off to Conroe about 225 or so miles away from me. Good, now I don't have to go to Stafford, Va. to look at one. Now just got to transform it to make it mine. Its all stock 55,000+ miles.
So my tranny,4:10's & wing will be added form "Blackular" along with SS inserts & chin spoiler I've already ordered. But I got to have some paint work done first, low miles but paint not up to my standards but at least I'm off the sidelines & BACK IN THE GAME!!!

[sam]

300A's have white plastic water guards in the doors, 300B's are clear.

^^^^ can you post a picture of that for me please?
I have no idea what this is