CVT transmission

[Aren Jay]

Seems the drag racing trolls don't like the idea.

Anyhow.

Would a CVT transmission work any good with a Marauder? Was thinking primarly in Drag racing instances, but I suppose it would work for any circumstance.


Instead of having a high stall speed and shifting you could just maintain a steady peak torque for the first part of the race until your torque tops out then raise the rpm up to the max horse power level and just leave it there for the rest of the race.

The CVT would select the right gear throughout the race and you would get maximum engine output for the whole race. Might even get it such that you don't top your gears out or something.

Think it would work with our Maruaders?

[RF Overlord]

This time, he asked a reasonable question. Either give a reasonable answer or don't bother posting.

[Joe Walsh]

This time, he asked a reasonable question. Either give a reasonable answer or don't bother posting.

A CVT in a 302 HP/318FT-LB/4400 lb Marauder?

Reasonable answer: NO!

BTW: CVTs don't have gears...maybe he should do the slightest amount of research before asking "reasonable" questions.

[O's Fan Rich]

How would you program it to work with the MM pcm?

Besides.... they worked so well in the cars they weredesigned to be installed in that Ford dropped them....

[Phrog_gunner]

A CVT in a 302 HP/4400 lb Marauder?

Reasonable answer: NO!

BTW: CVTs don't have gears...maybe he should do the slightest amount of research before asking "reasonable" questions.

In 3.5 seconds of research I found that CVTs have limited TQ handling ability.

[Joe Walsh]

In 3.5 seconds of research I found that CVTs have limited TQ handling ability.

Thank you!

(BTW: That's because you did a 'reasonable' amount of research.)

[Stranger in the Black Sedan]

Cars that have used the CVT, like the base model saturn vue with the POS ecotec 2.2L, have tons of reliability problems w/ the drivetrain. The 260HP engine in that same platform got a regular automatic which is trouble free.... hmmm

[Joe Walsh]

Cars that have used the CVT, like the base model saturn vue with the POS ecotec 2.2L, have tons of reliability problems w/ the drivetrain. The 260HP engine in that same platform got a regular automatic which is trouble free.... hmmm

But will it work OK for drag racing in a Marauder?

[Stranger in the Black Sedan]

If you put a 2.2 ecotec in the marauder, or weaker, then yeah it should be good

[Joe Walsh]

If you put a 2.2 ecotec in the marauder, or weaker, then yeah it should be good

I was planning on using a 'flat 8'...but an Ecotec 2.2 might suffice.

[Blackened300a]

Seems the drag racing trolls don't like the idea.

Anyhow.

Would a CVT transmission work any good with a Marauder? Was thinking primarly in Drag racing instances, but I suppose it would work for any circumstance.


Instead of having a high stall speed and shifting you could just maintain a steady peak torque for the first part of the race until your torque tops out then raise the rpm up to the max horse power level and just leave it there for the rest of the race.

The CVT would select the right gear throughout the race and you would get maximum engine output for the whole race. Might even get it such that you don't top your gears out or something.

Think it would work with our Maruaders?

No stupid, you help lower your E.Ts through gearing and shift points. This tranny is for extended gas mileage.
Plus I dont think the belt drive in those trannys would last very long trying to motovate a 4400lb car off the line. Besides, arent those trannys only for FWD applications???
I know I scored 2nd place under Joe on the trolls ignore list so why did I even bother???

[Joe Walsh]

No *****, you help lower your E.Ts through gearing and shift points. This tranny is for extended gas mileage.
Plus I dont think the belt drive in those trannys would last very long trying to motovate a 4400lb car off the line. Besides, arent those trannys only for FWD applications???
I know I scored 2nd place under Joe on the trolls ignore list so why did I even bother???

Hey, we both answered his 'reasonable' question in a non abusive way....well, I had to do a little editing on your reply, so we should be taken off his 'Ignore' list!
Being on his 'Ignore' list makes me feel so down and dejected......
I hope that he takes me off of it soon!

So: We now know that a belt driven CVT would NOT be a good transmission choice for a high HP, heavy sedan...
not even a Jaguar or Phaeton could benefit from a CVT

[cassidy]

Wouldn't the LOGICAL question (without all the personal combat) be...
"Does anyone make a CVT transmission that was ever successfully fitted into a Panther platform vehicle?" If it were an option on the 2012 500hp Marauder you would all be standing in line for it.

All options are possible until they are not.
(This is why scientists aren't TRUE scientists, they dismiss other possibilities for politics or ideology. For example "Global warming is a fact." "Mankind is harming the environment with CO2." Global warming is anthropogenic and not part of a natural cycle." and, last but not least "Evolution is fact and the only theory that should be taught or even considered.")

It must be nice to be RIGHT all the time.

[Blackened300a]

Hey, we both answered his 'reasonable' question in a non abusive way....well, I had to do a little editing on your reply, so we should be taken off his 'Ignore' list!
Being on his 'Ignore' list makes me feel so down and dejected......
I hope that he takes me off of it soon!

I know, I hope a vacation isnt coming my way for the harsh language and abrasive behavior to a valued member of our community. Maybe I should make a public apology on our behalf so I can hopefully smooth things over and we can find a spot on his friends list instead of ignore.

[Joe Walsh]

Wouldn't the LOGICAL question (without all the personal combat) be...
"Does anyone make a CVT transmission that was ever successfully fitted into a Panther platform vehicle?"
If it were an option on the 2012 500hp Marauder you would all be standing in line for it.
All options are possible until they are not.
(This is why scientists aren't TRUE scientists, they dismiss other possibilities for politics or ideology. For example "Global warming is a fact." "Mankind is harming the environment with CO2." Global warming is anthropogenic and not part of a natural cycle." and, last but not least "Evolution is fact and the only theory that should be taught or even considered."

It must be nice to be right all the time.

Actually, I would NEVER want a CVT in a performance car, regardless if technology advanced enough to keep them alive in such an application.

There is nothing like running a great car through the gears and barking the tires on a shift!