Just curious about their system. Is the ceramic coating really worth the money? Does it keep the headers from turning blueish? Are the turbo mufflers too loud? I guess that depends on your prefferences.
Just curious about their system. Is the ceramic coating really worth the money? Does it keep the headers from turning blueish? Are the turbo mufflers too loud? I guess that depends on your prefferences.
No color changes and god they run so much cooler inside of the engine compartment.
get water spots on them but there is a high temp polish you can use now on ceramic coated headers to keep them looking nice.
I have no clue about anything else other than the Mocat system though.
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Assembled 12/17/2003
#1183 of a build of 3214
and is #379 of 1237
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After my post I you tubed for stainless works turbo mufflers and did get some hits. I can't decide if they would be too loud when riding in the car. I don't wan't to have to blast the radio when riding.
Turn off the radio and just listen
IMHO, coating stainless headers is simply an asthetic mod, and a waste of money.
However, SW headers are far superior to Kooks, glad you've chosen them
Stick with OEM mufflers, you will be pleasantly surprised at how AWESOME it sounds.
I say go with the coating. Uncoated headers will turn colors and show their age, ceramic coated ones will always look great. Temperature difference, I dunno. It would take a before/after test and I've never run the uncoated ones.
Mufflers, stockers are quiet but may have more flow restriction. For quiet and high flow go with Borla Turbo, Turbo XL or Pro XS. One member tried them and had them taken back off because he claimed they were quieter than stockers. But with LT headers they ought to be about right.
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then 476/410 D1SC ProCharged on stock block
then 660/555 D1SC PC on 5.3 wet sleeved Teksid alum big bore stroker
then 365/369 N/A on 5.3 wet sleeved Teksid alum big bore stroker
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I don't believe in coating either, I actually prefer the look of the bare headers as they change colours over time.
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324 shortblock, Novi 2000, Now with optional axle removing tires
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Is that a better one?
I am not sure how big I can go and I think my sig is already a bit large with the mod's listed although now all of them are listed.
BTW the temp is low enough that I can alomst touch the headers with in maybe 10 minutes of shutting off the car due to how fast they cool
down and how low the outer temp stays in the first place so yes it make's a serious difference.
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Bought Her for my 40th B Day in August of 2004 @ Crest Lincoln Mercury
Assembled 12/17/2003
#1183 of a build of 3214
and is #379 of 1237
Link to Mod's and car:
http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forum...o=view&id=8832
Link to Pictures of the Kids/Animals, Cars I have built or a hand in building as well as cars and trucks I have owned.
http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forum...php?albumid=16
The SW headers are great, I did a GB here years ago.
The coating does affect underhood temps, so I got it. I'm unsure of scavaging effects though. The engine compartment stays much cooler than without the coating.
The SW mufflers are LOOOOOUD. 2Dmax got the whole system, headers to tailpipes and he took them off after 2 weeks. Mind you he had a Trilogy, and it was also completely drowned out by the SW mufflers. So were the helicopters taking off at his workplace!
3 of us went to a dyno with our MMs, and the guy said they were some of the loudest mufflers he'd heard.
You can get the coating locally probably cheaper. SW was charging $400, most local places were doing it for 275-300 bucks for the exact same stuff.
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MOD HISTORY:
-Lidio's Xcal2 flash, JLT CAI
-Trilogized June/08 (mostly installed by RC_Signals)
13.2@103 on stock (balding) tires.
-Added: SW Long tube Headers + High Flow Cats
-New BFGs (Best Baby Shower gift EVER!)
12.81@107.78 Oct 02/09
-Ventilated Block Mod
Out of commission
-Rebuilt with:
Teksid block/ForgedInternals/Melling oil pump/Canton windage tray/Rebuilt heads with SVT Cobra cams/Cloyes gears/ SVT Lightning MAF/Accufab TB/ MuscleMerc rear head cooling kit/ Steigy lightly ported and polished Eaton 112-
-Widened rims
XCal 4 Remote-tuned to PERFECTION by Jeff @ MartyO June/19
Wow thanks for the info! For anyone considering SW long tubes - August is FREE install month. Buy them in August and they'll install them for free.
I would have thought that the SW mufflers (being a turbo design) would be fairly quiet. I'm going with Dynomax Super Turbos someday. 25" overall length...
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11.90 @ 117.5mph on 93 octane
324 shortblock, Novi 2000, Now with optional axle removing tires
Igziabeher
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