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    Question Manual shifts.

    Is it a bad thing to manual shift through the gears on a stock '04 trans?
    My "old school" learning says it is bad - without a shift kit; but what about the Marauders?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rockettman View Post
    Is it a bad thing to manual shift through the gears on a stock '04 trans?
    My "old school" learning says it is bad - without a shift kit; but what about the Marauders?
    Don't do it!

    There are some tranny's that have been destroyed by manual shifting.
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    Personally, I think if done right you shouldn't have a problem. But, I also had to deal with a blown trans (stub shaft shattered). I have a hard time believing you'd kill it with a manual shift if it wasn't under load, but factor in you're probably playing with fire if you're under load and dealing with the O/D band in any way manually with your trans. Best solution, in my opinion: learn how to drive well around the fact that it's an automatic.

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    I wouldn't do it. The only time I go past drive is when I shift down in to 2nd gear in the winter time to get a little more grab and go from a stop on snow covered roads
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    I don't see what the big difference would be once you put a tune in it shifts hard enough from 1st to 2nd to chirp the tires. How would shifting manually wreck anything.

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    just put it in drive and let it rip.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4play View Post
    I don't see what the big difference would be once you put a tune in it shifts hard enough from 1st to 2nd to chirp the tires. How would shifting manually wreck anything.
    because when you have the lever in 2 the OD band is engaged, no matter if you have the OD button on or off. Not good for the trans.


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    We recently had this discussion and I believe it was Zack that said the OD is automatically enguaged whenever a gear is manualy changed. Unless you have time to shift from 3rd, wait a second, turn the OD off, then shift to 2nd your damaging the trans. I believe it was in one of MrBluGruv's thread's.
    I would'nt do it unless you can handle the consequence's

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    Quote Originally Posted by musclemerc View Post
    We recently had this discussion and I believe it was Zack that said the OD is automatically enguaged whenever a gear is manualy changed. Unless you have time to shift from 3rd, wait a second, turn the OD off, then shift to 2nd your damaging the trans. I believe it was in one of MrBluGruv's thread's.
    I would'nt do it unless you can handle the consequence's
    Couldn't have said it better. That's what I meant above, like I do it myself but at the same time I'd highly recommend not doing it. The safest "manual" shift I could possibly imagine, sometimes I'll leave the car in 1 to do a roll from low speeds, once I get rolling at WOT I'll push it up very quickly into D, as it has a lockout gate between D and N and if you go fast enough it won't register you hitting 2 so it won't force it out of 1 into 2 and it *shouldn't* engage the O/D band like it would putting it into 2.

    This is by no means definitive advice though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4play View Post
    I don't see what the big difference would be once you put a tune in it shifts hard enough from 1st to 2nd to chirp the tires. How would shifting manually wreck anything.
    That has nothing to do with manual shifting.

    Actually the harder shifts are better for your trans, less slippage.
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    What about downshifting when slowing down? I have a habit (I try not to) of downshifting from D to 2 when slowing down to let the compression slow the car a bit before I get on the brakes. How nasty is that for the tranny? I'm usually pretty good about it, but sometimes I do it instinctively.
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    Thanks for the input guys.
    Glad I didn't do the wrong way of finding things out!
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    how does it hurt the trans if u hit the shift points on time? manu shifting it had a slpit second delay then shifts, you have a tach. everytime my brother drives my car he shifts manu and bangs gears.
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    Quote Originally Posted by breeze View Post
    how does it hurt the trans if u hit the shift points on time? manu shifting it had a slpit second delay then shifts, you have a tach. everytime my brother drives my car he shifts manu and bangs gears.
    Read the replies above. When you manually shift the car the OD band is engaged in 2, even when you click the button to turn OD off. Trans doesn't like that very much.


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    Quote Originally Posted by breeze View Post
    how does it hurt the trans if u hit the shift points on time? manu shifting it had a slpit second delay then shifts, you have a tach. everytime my brother drives my car he shifts manu and bangs gears.
    It WILL break... just a matter of time. Hope he's going to foot the bill for repairs!
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