Rescued by Vincent-07/24/2010
My 2001 Lincoln Town Car will only remote start. It has done it intermittedly for the past 3 to 4 months (starting normally for 2 to 3 weeks) then I remote start it once and then it's normal for 2-3 more weeks. Recently that interval has shortened to 3 -4 days and now starts remotely only. I have removed power fron the alarm system and disconnected the battery for 10 mins or so while I cleaned the post. Still remote starts only.
ANY ADVICE WOULD BE MUCH APPRECIATED
VMARAUDER -
2004 Dark Toreador Red
Simply called "The Red Car", Build Date 4-20-2004, #2618 of 3214, #849 of 980 in DTR, Stainless Works LT Headers with SW Full Exhaust, Ford Racing 4.10 Gears, Carbon Clutches, Dyno by Modern Muscle, Mo's Speed Shop Tune, 277 rwhp 296.43 torque, Moonroof, Rear Spoiler, K&N CAI, Alpine CDA-117 CD Receiver, PAC SWI-JACK Steering Wheel Control , Rear Spoiler, Viper Alarm, From Sparta Performance...Rear Upper and Lower Control Arms, Watts Link, Stainless Steel Brake lines, Raybestos R300 S Groove Rotors with Advance Tech Ceramic Pads, Pro-Gard
It Ain't What You Got It's The Way You Use It
New DD 2014 F150 Lariat - EcoBoosted
and 2013 Lincoln MKX
1998 Grand Marquis GS 175K Sold at 199k
2001 Lincoln Town Car Gave away at 251k
RIP 2003 Garnd Marquis LS 280k miles
RIP 1990 Lincoln Town Car Cartier 295k miles
MO derator
If you have a spare key for your car, try starting it with that.
It could be that your key is corrupt/broken/shot/FUBAR'd
Rescued by Vincent-07/24/2010
Tried all keys except my valet which I am looking for now. I have it but just do not know where it is
Found the valet key and still remote starts only. I have 2 original factory keys that came with the car one works sometimes
How does the key go bad?
Can a key be de-programmed?
Can a key be corrupted by being in a drawre with multiple transponder keys?
Last edited by VMARAUDER; 05-19-2013 at 09:26 AM.
VMARAUDER -
2004 Dark Toreador Red
Simply called "The Red Car", Build Date 4-20-2004, #2618 of 3214, #849 of 980 in DTR, Stainless Works LT Headers with SW Full Exhaust, Ford Racing 4.10 Gears, Carbon Clutches, Dyno by Modern Muscle, Mo's Speed Shop Tune, 277 rwhp 296.43 torque, Moonroof, Rear Spoiler, K&N CAI, Alpine CDA-117 CD Receiver, PAC SWI-JACK Steering Wheel Control , Rear Spoiler, Viper Alarm, From Sparta Performance...Rear Upper and Lower Control Arms, Watts Link, Stainless Steel Brake lines, Raybestos R300 S Groove Rotors with Advance Tech Ceramic Pads, Pro-Gard
It Ain't What You Got It's The Way You Use It
New DD 2014 F150 Lariat - EcoBoosted
and 2013 Lincoln MKX
1998 Grand Marquis GS 175K Sold at 199k
2001 Lincoln Town Car Gave away at 251k
RIP 2003 Garnd Marquis LS 280k miles
RIP 1990 Lincoln Town Car Cartier 295k miles
Senior Member
No a key can't be deprogramed as it isn't programed it is the car that is trained to accept a particular key's code. Note there are aftermarket programable or "cloneable" keys but not factory keys.
Yes they can quit working but it would be extremely rare for all of them to fail at the same time.
My bet is that your ignition switch is failing but you didn't say if the engine cranks and doesn't start with the key or if it doesn't crank at all. Not cranking at all would indicate a bad ign sw. It could also be the wiring between the ign sw and where the remote start is connected to that circuit.
Rescued by Vincent-07/24/2010
Engine cranks and does not start. I will see if I can still get under the dash and check the wiring. I was thinking about retiring this beast anyway (it's hard to part with a reliable vehicle) though it has no other issues.
VMARAUDER -
2004 Dark Toreador Red
Simply called "The Red Car", Build Date 4-20-2004, #2618 of 3214, #849 of 980 in DTR, Stainless Works LT Headers with SW Full Exhaust, Ford Racing 4.10 Gears, Carbon Clutches, Dyno by Modern Muscle, Mo's Speed Shop Tune, 277 rwhp 296.43 torque, Moonroof, Rear Spoiler, K&N CAI, Alpine CDA-117 CD Receiver, PAC SWI-JACK Steering Wheel Control , Rear Spoiler, Viper Alarm, From Sparta Performance...Rear Upper and Lower Control Arms, Watts Link, Stainless Steel Brake lines, Raybestos R300 S Groove Rotors with Advance Tech Ceramic Pads, Pro-Gard
It Ain't What You Got It's The Way You Use It
New DD 2014 F150 Lariat - EcoBoosted
and 2013 Lincoln MKX
1998 Grand Marquis GS 175K Sold at 199k
2001 Lincoln Town Car Gave away at 251k
RIP 2003 Garnd Marquis LS 280k miles
RIP 1990 Lincoln Town Car Cartier 295k miles
Willing to meet up half way
Bad pickup ring for the PATS
I LOVE Jerry's bar, it's my kinda place...........
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Rescued by Vincent-07/24/2010
PATS???? acronyms are not my best subject
VMARAUDER -
2004 Dark Toreador Red
Simply called "The Red Car", Build Date 4-20-2004, #2618 of 3214, #849 of 980 in DTR, Stainless Works LT Headers with SW Full Exhaust, Ford Racing 4.10 Gears, Carbon Clutches, Dyno by Modern Muscle, Mo's Speed Shop Tune, 277 rwhp 296.43 torque, Moonroof, Rear Spoiler, K&N CAI, Alpine CDA-117 CD Receiver, PAC SWI-JACK Steering Wheel Control , Rear Spoiler, Viper Alarm, From Sparta Performance...Rear Upper and Lower Control Arms, Watts Link, Stainless Steel Brake lines, Raybestos R300 S Groove Rotors with Advance Tech Ceramic Pads, Pro-Gard
It Ain't What You Got It's The Way You Use It
New DD 2014 F150 Lariat - EcoBoosted
and 2013 Lincoln MKX
1998 Grand Marquis GS 175K Sold at 199k
2001 Lincoln Town Car Gave away at 251k
RIP 2003 Garnd Marquis LS 280k miles
RIP 1990 Lincoln Town Car Cartier 295k miles
MO derator
Passive Anti Theft SystemOriginally Posted by VMARAUDER
Rescued by Vincent-07/24/2010
Looking at this picture thi image to the left is ????
Last edited by VMARAUDER; 10-26-2014 at 05:45 PM.
VMARAUDER -
2004 Dark Toreador Red
Simply called "The Red Car", Build Date 4-20-2004, #2618 of 3214, #849 of 980 in DTR, Stainless Works LT Headers with SW Full Exhaust, Ford Racing 4.10 Gears, Carbon Clutches, Dyno by Modern Muscle, Mo's Speed Shop Tune, 277 rwhp 296.43 torque, Moonroof, Rear Spoiler, K&N CAI, Alpine CDA-117 CD Receiver, PAC SWI-JACK Steering Wheel Control , Rear Spoiler, Viper Alarm, From Sparta Performance...Rear Upper and Lower Control Arms, Watts Link, Stainless Steel Brake lines, Raybestos R300 S Groove Rotors with Advance Tech Ceramic Pads, Pro-Gard
It Ain't What You Got It's The Way You Use It
New DD 2014 F150 Lariat - EcoBoosted
and 2013 Lincoln MKX
1998 Grand Marquis GS 175K Sold at 199k
2001 Lincoln Town Car Gave away at 251k
RIP 2003 Garnd Marquis LS 280k miles
RIP 1990 Lincoln Town Car Cartier 295k miles
Rescued by Vincent-07/24/2010
I found my valet key and it will not start the vehicle either...it does crank
so where is the pick up ring located and can you purchase it from Ford or an aftermarket retailer?
I did not mention that it has the "Directed" module for the remote start and viper 560XV alarm
So as I stand I have 1 original key that starts sometimes, 1 original key that does not start and 1 original valet key that does not start. 2 aftermarket keys that were good but no longer starts...all keys will allow car to run once it is remotely started
VMARAUDER -
2004 Dark Toreador Red
Simply called "The Red Car", Build Date 4-20-2004, #2618 of 3214, #849 of 980 in DTR, Stainless Works LT Headers with SW Full Exhaust, Ford Racing 4.10 Gears, Carbon Clutches, Dyno by Modern Muscle, Mo's Speed Shop Tune, 277 rwhp 296.43 torque, Moonroof, Rear Spoiler, K&N CAI, Alpine CDA-117 CD Receiver, PAC SWI-JACK Steering Wheel Control , Rear Spoiler, Viper Alarm, From Sparta Performance...Rear Upper and Lower Control Arms, Watts Link, Stainless Steel Brake lines, Raybestos R300 S Groove Rotors with Advance Tech Ceramic Pads, Pro-Gard
It Ain't What You Got It's The Way You Use It
New DD 2014 F150 Lariat - EcoBoosted
and 2013 Lincoln MKX
1998 Grand Marquis GS 175K Sold at 199k
2001 Lincoln Town Car Gave away at 251k
RIP 2003 Garnd Marquis LS 280k miles
RIP 1990 Lincoln Town Car Cartier 295k miles
Willing to meet up half way
Well, the autostart is hooked into the PATS to bypass it. I would pull the plastic off the bottom and top of the steering column and inspect the wiring where that is tied in.
Most austostarts are installed loose and fast, meaning shortcuts are taken, namely scotchloks and crappy jobs of wiring system in. That is where I would look first.
Past that, I would look at the pickup that is around the ignition lock cylinder. If the car starts with the autostart, then the PATS is working, the problem is upstream from that, either the wiring, pickup or the keys fell out of the programming somehow
I LOVE Jerry's bar, it's my kinda place...........
When you are dead, you don’t know you are dead. It is difficult only for others. It is the same way when you are stupid.
"Chuck Norris built my stock longblock. It runs on the tears of small children and makes 10,000 hp. He said it's his 'street version' "
Trilogy # 192 / T.S. 0012
BOOST GETS YOU FELONY STOPPED!!!
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