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    Quote Originally Posted by RF Overlord View Post
    What does the brand of moonroof have to do with safety?
    Years ago I heard it wasn't the brand of moonroof, it was any moonroof.

    Allegedly... I'm not going to verify... the cars had a 5-star crash rating but couldn't do it with a moonroof. FoMoCo veteod the moonroof option for '03 to preserve the 5-star rating.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gpfarrell View Post
    FoMoCo veteod the moonroof option for '03 to preserve the 5-star rating.
    Sounds logical, but that doesn't explain why there was a moonroof option for '04, unless they didn't care about the crash rating then.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RF Overlord View Post
    What does the brand of moonroof have to do with safety?
    The ASC moonroof that I have has some different options then the Ford one. I can set mine to close automatically when I turn the key off -Ford's does not. Steve told me that Ford did not have this option due to safety concerns. If someone's hand was sticking out they would have no way to stop it thus creating a liability.

    Plus the ASC moonroof is alot larger then the Ford one which might be a play on the safety crash ratings.


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    Do you now how many mm 04 they build with exterior black with light flint interior moonroof and heated seats?
    Quote Originally Posted by Bluerauder View Post
    You are correct. The trim/option breakout that came with the certificate from the Ford Performance Group (FPG) did not include the moonroof option (see below). Someone missed the boat on that one when this was all set-up. I am surprised that some of the 2004 MM owners did not bring this to the attention of FPG to get it corrected when they ordered their certificates. It should have been an easy "fix" using the 2MHHM VIN identifier.

    I don't ever recall any numbers or even estimates of the number of moonroofs that were available with the 2004 MM. Your numbers above assume about 37.7% of the overall 2004 MMs got the moonroof. Seems like a "weird" random number to use. 1 out of 3 would have been 33.3%. Moreover, the 37.7% only applies to the total and the DTR. Silver and Blacks are different percentages in your numbers for some reason. Since we will probably never know unless someone asks .... it probably doesn't make too much difference anyway.

    Here's how your numbers/estimates stacks up:

    2004 DTR 369 of 980 = 37.7%
    2004 SB 336 of 997 = 33.7%
    2004 JPB 509 of 1237 = 41.1%
    2004 Total 1214 of 3214 = 37.7%

    Here is the 2004 color, trim & option breakdown from FPG .....

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    How many Marauders were made with moon roof option

    Quote Originally Posted by mmflint View Post
    Do you now how many mm 04 they build with exterior black with light flint interior moonroof and heated seats?

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    Short answer is No because the breakout sheets did not give that level of detail. That combo numbers 156 or less. My guess is somewhere around 50 based strictly on percents.
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    My second marauder was silver with the dark gray and it had a moon roof sold in 05 man I miss it but my red one has no moon roof but has the dark gray with only 8 k miles on it. It will do

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bluerauder View Post
    Short answer is No because the breakout sheets did not give that level of detail. That combo numbers 156 or less. My guess is somewhere around 50 based strictly on percents.
    thanks sr.. I have not found many with this combination....I have one and I love it

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    Quote Originally Posted by mad man View Post
    My second marauder was silver with the dark gray and it had a moon roof sold in 05 man I miss it but my red one has no moon roof but has the dark gray with only 8 k miles on it. It will do

    Only two choices on interiors ... Dark Charcoal or Light Flint.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bluerauder View Post
    Only two choices on interiors ... Dark Charcoal or Light Flint.
    I have a broken seat and could not find it...Difficult to find this color

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    Quote Originally Posted by fastblackmerc View Post
    Almost all car companies contract out their sunroof / moonroof installs. For all intents and purposes they are installed "by the factory". Ford has always contracted with ASC American Sunroof Company.

    http://automotivemileposts.com/aschistory.html

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    Sunroof is a movable metal panel

    Moonroof is a moveable glass panel

    Thanks for the link - a good read.

    I had the Signature Moonroof (successor to ASC?) installed in my car shortly after bringing it home earlier this spring - priceless. Same with my '05 Mustang shortly after buying it back in 2011. My '98 Mustang had the Hollandia powered spoiler moonroof. My first moon roof car was a '85 Dodge Lancer that had a pop up moon roof installed shortly after buying it because we were impressed with the moon roofed Lancer on the showroom floor.

    My first experience with sunroofs/moonroofs was when employed by a local Ford/Honda dealer in Jax, FL during the early '70s. Ford had a regional office in the area at the time; our dealer handled all of the executive cars going back and forth from the regional office - at least half had powered sunroofs. I recall the glass moonroofs coming out not long after on the large Thunderbirds - have been impressed ever since.
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    I saw a light flint seat on car-parts.com

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    I too have a 04 black/black with heated seats and Moonroof.
    My silver o4 has light flint and no Moonroof.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1 Bad Merc View Post
    The ASC moonroof that I have has some different options then the Ford one. I can set mine to close automatically when I turn the key off -Ford's does not. Steve told me that Ford did not have this option due to safety concerns. If someone's hand was sticking out they would have no way to stop it thus creating a liability.

    Plus the ASC moonroof is alot larger then the Ford one which might be a play on the safety crash ratings.

    I've never compared these units side to side (Signature unit installed this year) but read somewhere they are the same size as the factory units? Our switches are lit too which helps at night.

    With the auto-close feature, if one doesn't want the roof to close when the wipers come on or the key is turned off one only has to depress the 'open' button once and the roof will fully reopen and stay there until the next KO/O cycle. No inside trim ring for the Signature units either, which I'm fine with.

    Similar unit installed on my '05 Mustang back in 2011. Only differences are the Mustang unit is about half the size of the Marauder unit and only opens about 3/4 of the way due to the curvature of the roof. 2 years parts and labor and lifetime parts to the original owner. Mustang went in to the local auto trim shop (Signature dealer) last fall when the roof failed to open (loose plug). It was serviced, drain tubes checked at no charge.

    Sadly, can't install one in my Ranger due to the body support construction in the roof area (destroy body rigidity). Otherwise, Ranger would have a moonroof too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BLACKMARAUDER04 View Post
    I saw a light flint seat on car-parts.com
    I already asked and they already sold them


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    Quote Originally Posted by mmflint View Post
    I already asked and they already sold them


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