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    Quote Originally Posted by cheapthrillb2 View Post
    Question for those with the front kits...

    Anybody notice a difference when trying to foot brake at the track? Last year I could foot brake and hold the car to about 3200 rpm to launch. This year it's around 2600-2700 before I start pushing through the brakes.

    My thought process was maybe the corvette calipers were a bit larger and not upgrading the master cyl to displace more fluid might be the source. When we upgrade our axles in jeeps with larger brakes we have to go to larger master cylinders.

    My brakes feel fine, good firm pedal, stops great etc. Just can't foot brake like I could.

    Torn between a possible brake change or my torque converter. It's the same converter as last year, but I did have the company I got it from cut/clean it over the winter to renew my warranty.


    Could also be a difference in your tire life, air pressure, temps, and track prep.

    Any changes in those departments? I’ve never read of any booster changes even with the larger Wilwood kits.


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    get a Hurst roll control
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    Quote Originally Posted by RubberCtyRauder View Post
    get a Hurst roll control


    I was assuming he already had one and was pushing thru the front pads because of traction? I could be wrong.


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    Quote Originally Posted by RubberCtyRauder View Post
    get a Hurst roll control


    Get 2, one for each front wheel


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    Tires were identical. I only run my etss at the track (not on the street). Hoping to go back this week to the track. Got to try a few other things. I wasn't talking boosters, but master cylinders.

    Track condition, Temps, humidity etc were all very similar.
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    Anyone install speed bleeders on the C5 Calipers? If so are they the same spec for the Marauder stock?


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    Probably a pretty obvious answer to this since a lot of people are running this set up, but are these rotors centered on the lugs? Or are people just getting the id knurled out professionally? My rotors are starting to pulse a little on braking so I might as well do the upgrade now.

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    You open the hub hole .030 with a die grinder.


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    Quote Originally Posted by cruise_missile View Post
    Probably a pretty obvious answer to this since a lot of people are running this set up, but are these rotors centered on the lugs? Or are people just getting the id knurled out professionally? My rotors are starting to pulse a little on braking so I might as well do the upgrade now.

    Not really lug centered but hub centered. But if you didn't grind the center straight it could be off. But neither scenario should cause pulsation. If you had debris between the rotor and hub surface could. Alot of vehicles today are'nt lug centered, but hub centered. Even then I find alot aren't that great and have a little slop in fitment, but have no real braking concerns.
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    In response to my question on braking force. I think I'm gonna try and rebleed the brakes. While the pedal feels firm and no excessive drop, I have had the abs engage a few times over several hundred miles when it shouldn't engage. So I'm gonna readdress that and bleed with a scanner as well and see if that makes any difference.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cheapthrillb2 View Post
    In response to my question on braking force. I think I'm gonna try and rebleed the brakes. While the pedal feels firm and no excessive drop, I have had the abs engage a few times over several hundred miles when it shouldn't engage. So I'm gonna readdress that and bleed with a scanner as well and see if that makes any difference.
    If you haven't already get speed bleeders.


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    Quote Originally Posted by cheapthrillb2 View Post
    Not really lug centered but hub centered. But if you didn't grind the center straight it could be off. But neither scenario should cause pulsation. If you had debris between the rotor and hub surface could. Alot of vehicles today are'nt lug centered, but hub centered. Even then I find alot aren't that great and have a little slop in fitment, but have no real braking concerns.
    Sorry if it was confusing, but I have pulsing now with oe brake setup. I'm buying the pieces for this now and I'm deciding if I should get the rotors professionally knurled out. I figured most are hub centered so just wondering how people are clearing it out with a grinder and not having vibration. I'll probably have it done professionally and not risk vibration at 80+

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    Over 20k miles and 1 worn out set of pads on my brake upgrade in 1 year. Still love the brakes. Just installed Hawk HP+ pads and the brakes are even better than before. Might have a piston seal leaking on my crappy Oreilly caliper already. The Powerstop on the other side is doing great so it’s just an inferior reman from Oreilly. Keep an eye on your remans for this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cruise_missile View Post
    Sorry if it was confusing, but I have pulsing now with oe brake setup. I'm buying the pieces for this now and I'm deciding if I should get the rotors professionally knurled out. I figured most are hub centered so just wondering how people are clearing it out with a grinder and not having vibration. I'll probably have it done professionally and not risk vibration at 80+
    it certainly wouldn’t hurt to have the center bore machined properly on a lathe. Do whatever makes you feel comfortable. Turbov6 Bryan and I just used a dremel bit.

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    Big Brakes on a not-so-big Budget? YEP

    Quote Originally Posted by cruise_missile View Post
    Sorry if it was confusing, but I have pulsing now with oe brake setup. I'm buying the pieces for this now and I'm deciding if I should get the rotors professionally knurled out. I figured most are hub centered so just wondering how people are clearing it out with a grinder and not having vibration. I'll probably have it done professionally and not risk vibration at 80+
    Probably too much for you if your ocd is preventing you from using a round sanding drum inside a round hole for the .001” needed. What do you think the machine shop would do anyway? Set up mill or cnc the rotor.


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