Meziere Electric Water Pump Installed

[FordNut]

For sure a great idea! Picked up 12 hp and 8 ft-lb tq at the peaks, but the real story is at lower rpms. At 3500 rpm, picked up approximately 20 hp and 35 ft-lb tq. I'm anxious to get a dyno test/tune with the t/c locked to see what it does at the very low end, like 1500 or so. That's coming soon, when I change the MAF sensor.

I got the anodized pulley, and the wiring is pretty much hidden, so you don't really notice that it's not stock unless you look closely.

Since I have the underdrive crank pulley, it required a shorter belt, Gates part # 60905. With stock pulleys the OEM belt works ok.

Tested it in rush hour traffic, ATL I-285 northside at 3:30. Gridlock and 94 degrees. No cooling issues hatsoever. Talked to many more electric water pump users since making the decision and got nothing but good reviews. I agree!

Will post pictures later.
edit: try here for a pic:
http://www.mercurygallery.net/mmnet/...php/photo/3539
edit: forgot to say, 297 RWHP now!

[TAF]

I was fortunate enough to see my buddy Brian...AND his Dyno sheets this afternoon.

Come on UPS, Come on UPS....

[tmac1337]

The one thing I do not like about this site is that I can't keep money in my pocket. Here we go again. Next a water pump.

[Fourth Horseman]

The one thing I do not like about this site is that I can't keep money in my pocket. Here we go again. Next a water pump.

I hear that. And for financially challenged people, like me, it makes keeping focus on your primary upgrade objectives tough. In the mean time I live vicariously through everybody else's Marauders.

[Warpath]

Does this pump have an idler pulley? There was one manufacturer of a electric pump (Meziere I think) which had some quality issues with the pulley breaking off. That was a little while ago and they may have it fixed by now. But, I just wanted you give you a heads up to keep an eye on it for a little while. This makes me want to get one too!

[stevengerard]

So with all this talk about limits to the S/Ced engines at around 450 hp, if this adds 10 - 20 hp above that does this not count since it is really adding hp by taking away the work load of the ingine to run the mechanical pump. Or does hp still exhert the same forces on the engine wether it is an addition or by the reduction of its lossage.

[FordNut]

So with all this talk about limits to the S/Ced engines at around 450 hp, if this adds 10 - 20 hp above that does this not count since it is really adding hp by taking away the work load of the ingine to run the mechanical pump. Or does hp still exhert the same forces on the engine wether it is an addition or by the reduction of its lossage.

2 of the strongest supercharged MarkVIIIs on the planet are using these pumps. That ought to say something about whether it's worthwhile.

[stevengerard]

2 of the strongest supercharged MarkVIIIs on the planet are using these pumps. That ought to say something about whether it's worthwhile.

I'm not questioning wether its worthwhile, I am asking a physics question I don't know the answer to. The S/C adds hp by addition, an electric fan, water pump and fule pump, lighter pistons, cooler air intake, add horse power by reducing the work load of the engine itself. so does all this additional hp still add up to a dangerous amount. Lets say you are at the 450 hp of our engines and add an additional 55hp with all of these items is it now dangerous beacuse you are at 505 or is it really ok since you only pushed the power with additive hp to 450. Just a question of what hp and load means not a question of value.

[Dr Caleb]

Lets say you are at the 450 hp of our engines and add an additional 55hp with all of these items is it now dangerous beacuse you are at 505 or is it really ok since you only pushed the power with additive hp to 450. Just a question of what hp and load means not a question of value.

No, you aren't forcing the engine to make more horsepower. All that is going on with the waterpump thingie is you are letting more of the horses that were already there go to the rear wheels.

There's no danger of blowing it, all this does is make the engine have to do less 'extra' work. The horses were already there.

If you were to pull off the A/C pump, and power steering pump etc, you'd also see increases in HP. You'd be hot and have to drive in a straight line, but you'd free up more ponies

[Ross]

You'd be hot and have to drive in a straight line, but you'd free up more ponies

Sounds like a car for the drag strip!

[Dennis Reinhart]

I am sold on it, so if we can get this thing going I will setup a group buy, I re'did Kieths car today on the dyno it made 458 RWHP on 9 PSI I am afraid to think what it will do with a electric pump LOL

http://web.iwebcenters.com/reinharta...3758-kieth.jpg

[stevengerard]

[QUOTE=Dennis Reinhart]I am sold on it, so if we can get this thing going I will setup a group buyQUOTE]

I'm in as long as I'm spending

[BruteForce]

I'm in for the group buy. I will also need the other parts since I have the UD pulleys now.

[purelux]

Do you know what the part # for a gatorback would be. I have steeda underdrives as well. Also was it hard at all to wire in, I have a 98 towncar I guess there is an extra switched 12 volt empty fuse on 03+marauders but wasn't sure how to wire it on mine.

For sure a great idea! Picked up 12 hp and 8 ft-lb tq at the peaks, but the real story is at lower rpms. At 3500 rpm, picked up approximately 20 hp and 35 ft-lb tq. I'm anxious to get a dyno test/tune with the t/c locked to see what it does at the very low end, like 1500 or so. That's coming soon, when I change the MAF sensor.

I got the anodized pulley, and the wiring is pretty much hidden, so you don't really notice that it's not stock unless you look closely.

Since I have the underdrive crank pulley, it required a shorter belt, Gates part # 60905. With stock pulleys the OEM belt works ok.

Tested it in rush hour traffic, ATL I-285 northside at 3:30. Gridlock and 94 degrees. No cooling issues hatsoever. Talked to many more electric water pump users since making the decision and got nothing but good reviews. I agree!

Will post pictures later.
edit: try here for a pic:
http://www.mercurygallery.net/mmnet/...php/photo/3539
edit: forgot to say, 297 RWHP now!

[FordNut]

Do you know what the part # for a gatorback would be. I have steeda underdrives as well. Also was it hard at all to wire in, I have a 98 towncar I guess there is an extra switched 12 volt empty fuse on 03+marauders but wasn't sure how to wire it on mine.

Sorry, I don't have the cross reference info, just the number that is on the belt. I had it installed and wired at Team Ford. I don't believe the wiring job is difficult, but wrapping the wiring and tying it in with the rest of the harness so it looks OEM may be a bit more involved.