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    Hi All.
    Posting that the Rodder is back on the road & trans is fully rebuilt & with stronger parts & one year warranty.

    Next is to install the
    AUTOMETER dual A-Pillar pod with trans gauge & ZEX gauge
    & METCO Driveshaft loop when it arrives from ADTR next week.

    I won't have much time to test it out cus time to winter store it soon.
    The MM WILL be ready for Louisville & a trip to Mo's for a few more mods in April.
    Last edited by WPG_Merc; 06-01-2016 at 01:04 PM.
    Trilogy With Comp Cams Stage 3 Sound's
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GUIRJ1zGhSA
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AAUWZ9f8gXw
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mrPUl529gog
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KvfRjhiGT4w N/A Sound

    Dyno By "Mo's Speed Shop",Dallas,Georgia https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VqxN3FjWd6s
    445 RW/HP @ 398 Torque S/C

    Jeff Doing a Traditional Burn Out At "Mo's Speed Shop"
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nCyKuC5heAI

    So Far Best Run 12.84 @106 MPH https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dlA-0vB0HwU

    Big "Thanks" To Gerald,Derek,Bill & Harrison


    "Thanks" Martyo & Jeff

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    That's a hell of a rebuild, i thought you already had a built trans
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    Quote Originally Posted by MOTOWN View Post
    That's a hell of a rebuild, i thought you already had a built trans
    It was rebuilt a year ago but a few weeks after the Aug dynos the trans started to slip a little but thought nothing of it till driving to Vegas when it failed.
    Cause:
    The B&M shift kit wasnt pumping enough oil causing the 3rd 4th to fail,Overheating the converter.The converter clutch system was found to be to weak & not adequate for the power & heat increase.

    But now the trans has better stronger,up to date parts.
    The big test is Louisville & to Mo's in April & some ZEX track runs in May.
    Trilogy With Comp Cams Stage 3 Sound's
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GUIRJ1zGhSA
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AAUWZ9f8gXw
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mrPUl529gog
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KvfRjhiGT4w N/A Sound

    Dyno By "Mo's Speed Shop",Dallas,Georgia https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VqxN3FjWd6s
    445 RW/HP @ 398 Torque S/C

    Jeff Doing a Traditional Burn Out At "Mo's Speed Shop"
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nCyKuC5heAI

    So Far Best Run 12.84 @106 MPH https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dlA-0vB0HwU

    Big "Thanks" To Gerald,Derek,Bill & Harrison


    "Thanks" Martyo & Jeff

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    So they screwed you IMHO

    Because they didn't cover the trans under warranty.

    You told me it was built for 500hp originally.

    Don't be a pushover, just sayin.......
    Those were the days.........

    DANG THEY'RE CUTE!!!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by lji372 View Post
    So they screwed you IMHO

    Because they didn't cover the trans under warranty.

    You told me it was built for 500hp originally.

    Don't be a pushover, just sayin.......
    Part of the trans work was under warranty locally,But not the Converter & other parts I ordered from TCI which they recomended & clam can hold 500 + HP.

    The local shop contacted TCI & couldn't get any where with them & went to a different source.
    Took 2 weeks for the shop to find the right combo & with a full warranty.
    Trilogy With Comp Cams Stage 3 Sound's
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GUIRJ1zGhSA
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AAUWZ9f8gXw
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mrPUl529gog
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KvfRjhiGT4w N/A Sound

    Dyno By "Mo's Speed Shop",Dallas,Georgia https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VqxN3FjWd6s
    445 RW/HP @ 398 Torque S/C

    Jeff Doing a Traditional Burn Out At "Mo's Speed Shop"
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nCyKuC5heAI

    So Far Best Run 12.84 @106 MPH https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dlA-0vB0HwU

    Big "Thanks" To Gerald,Derek,Bill & Harrison


    "Thanks" Martyo & Jeff

    #6486 of 11,052 03 300B In Black

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    Quote Originally Posted by WPG_Merc View Post
    Cause:
    The B&M shift kit wasnt pumping enough oil causing the 3rd 4th to fail,Overheating the converter.
    I hope you didn't re-install that, or any other, shift kit.

    J-mod FTW!
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    Quote Originally Posted by RF Overlord View Post
    I hope you didn't re-install that, or any other, shift kit.

    J-mod FTW!
    How could they have got him to buy it and not install it
    (it was the same trans shop the second time)


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    B&M and TCI have never, ever been good trans parts or convertors in cars I've owned or known, over 35 years.
    Just like Crane Cams. Junk.
    I hope they used other vendors on this build.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chief455 View Post
    B&M and TCI have never, ever been good trans parts or convertors in cars I've owned or known, over 35 years.
    Just like Crane Cams. Junk.
    I hope they used other vendors on this build.
    I've used both , and they are both garbage, not worth the money.
    04 MERCURY MARAUDER build date:02/11/04
    ITS ALIVE !!!!!!!!

    STAY TUNED!!!!!!!!!!

    **WHIPPLE 4.0L CRUSHER!**0000 (FOR NOW) RWHP

    VISIT MY GARAGE FOR A FULL LIST OF MODS

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    Quote Originally Posted by lji372 View Post
    How could they have got him to buy it and not install it
    (it was the same trans shop the second time)
    The B&M shift kit was installed in 09 when the motor & trans were stock,But it wasn't replaced or modified on the first trans build & worked fine.

    The B&M shift kit & converter failed burning gears a few weeks after the degreeing & ZEX dyno in Aug as the MM is now at a higher matched HP & torque level.
    I asked other local trans shops about the Jmod in 09 & the one that did the work & 1.they don't know what a Jmod is 2.they don't want to be accountable if it's done wrong.
    Transgo Shift Kit T76171E
    http://www.transgo.com/products.php?...1&prod_start=1
    BM SERIES Bracket Master 9.5"
    http://www.tcsproducts.com/products/...2800-3500-rpm/
    9.5"
    I hope It's a better combo,but I would like to go S/C & forged at some point but right now I'll get the MM ready for it.
    Trilogy With Comp Cams Stage 3 Sound's
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GUIRJ1zGhSA
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AAUWZ9f8gXw
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mrPUl529gog
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KvfRjhiGT4w N/A Sound

    Dyno By "Mo's Speed Shop",Dallas,Georgia https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VqxN3FjWd6s
    445 RW/HP @ 398 Torque S/C

    Jeff Doing a Traditional Burn Out At "Mo's Speed Shop"
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nCyKuC5heAI

    So Far Best Run 12.84 @106 MPH https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dlA-0vB0HwU

    Big "Thanks" To Gerald,Derek,Bill & Harrison


    "Thanks" Martyo & Jeff

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    Honestly, they charged a lot of money and didn't upgrade any of the hard parts.

    On all my supercharged transmission rebuilds I upgrade the intermediate stub shaft with a piece machined from 300m alloy. its also a good idea to upgrade the mechanical diode one way clutch to the newest version that has more locking teeth. Its much stronger than the earlier design and can withstand more abuse under the full throttle pulls during 1st and 2nd gear. Lubrication improvements are a MUST, for any rebuild and really improve lubrication to critical areas. Since you are running Nitrous in your car, 300M shaft is required in my opinion.

    The only thing worse than a TransGo shift kit, is a B&M shift kit. As Jerry has pointed out several times, these kits are trying to mechanically override internal transmissions functions that are controlled by the ECM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chief455 View Post
    B&M and TCI have never, ever been good trans parts or convertors in cars I've owned or known, over 35 years.
    Just like Crane Cams. Junk.
    I hope they used other vendors on this build.
    I worked as a cam grinder for crane cams when i was younger.... Our chinese garbage rough castings were unbelievably porous and whenever we got a really bad batch, steve crane would just tell us to keep grinding away until it looked good, to hell with correct base circle or advertised lift... I think the company went to **** when harvey retired....

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    Quote Originally Posted by 88grandmarq View Post
    Honestly, they charged a lot of money and didn't upgrade any of the hard parts.

    On all my supercharged transmission rebuilds I upgrade the intermediate stub shaft with a piece machined from 300m alloy. its also a good idea to upgrade the mechanical diode one way clutch to the newest version that has more locking teeth. Its much stronger than the earlier design and can withstand more abuse under the full throttle pulls during 1st and 2nd gear. Lubrication improvements are a MUST, for any rebuild and really improve lubrication to critical areas. Since you are running Nitrous in your car, 300M shaft is required in my opinion.

    The only thing worse than a TransGo shift kit, is a B&M shift kit. As Jerry has pointed out several times, these kits are trying to mechanically override internal transmissions functions that are controlled by the ECM.
    Thanks for the info.

    Right now it's as far as the MM will go HP wise.
    Next big $$ step is forging & S/C & may take time to plan it out,The big prob is local shops here are not repeatable to build or tune one.

    It's why I like to visit Mo's after an event 1,735 + mile's away for upgrades.
    Trilogy With Comp Cams Stage 3 Sound's
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GUIRJ1zGhSA
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AAUWZ9f8gXw
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mrPUl529gog
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KvfRjhiGT4w N/A Sound

    Dyno By "Mo's Speed Shop",Dallas,Georgia https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VqxN3FjWd6s
    445 RW/HP @ 398 Torque S/C

    Jeff Doing a Traditional Burn Out At "Mo's Speed Shop"
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nCyKuC5heAI

    So Far Best Run 12.84 @106 MPH https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dlA-0vB0HwU

    Big "Thanks" To Gerald,Derek,Bill & Harrison


    "Thanks" Martyo & Jeff

    #6486 of 11,052 03 300B In Black

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