Eaton Swap vs. Trilogy Price?

[MrBluGruv]

Seems to me all I've seen that's been "copied" between the Trilogy kit and the cobra blower swap, unless I'm mistaken, were the couple of brackets. In my opinion, you reach a point where an idea or the way to achieve something can only be done a handful of ways, if not only one, so at what point do you draw the line of crying plagiarism? If they were the first on the market, would that mean they are entitled to be the only one?

I can agree that you get what you pay for, but in a sense, I think a number of these cobra blower swap guys have already payed-in in a sense by getting educated on how to make that happen in the first place.

Personally, I'd probably go Trilogy because I don't have that knowledge and I'd want someone to go back to if it doesn't work, but I also find the $$$-tag VERY appealing for the swap from a Cobra.

[RF Overlord]

No supercharger wars.

Let's just say that the Trilogy kit and the DIY Eaton each have advantages and if done properly both will be highly enjoyable.

[Bradley G]

I posted a plain and simple question, no war, no insult(s)?

[jstevens]

This thread is pointless the more I look at it.

I eaton swapped my car, used my Brain and not my checkbook to install it, and the first time to the track with it I ran 11.99 @ 115.

If you wanna compare apples to apples, my kit out of the 'many boxes' is faster...where as the Trilogy looks great

Its not the kit that makes it the fastest but the tune and if the engine holds together.

[Dennis Reinhart]

Its not the kit that makes it the fastest but the tune and if the engine holds together.

No truer words said.

[SC Cheesehead]

I posted a plain and simple question, no war, no insult(s)?

Yeah, but lots of pot stirring, Bradley.

Methinks it's time to take RF's advice and give this a rest.

[Bradley G]

Just a different perspective here pal!
Your interpretation must get lost/miscued over the cyberwaves.
Hopefully some Eaton swappers will come clean on difficulties they have had going this route.

Yeah, but lots of pot stirring, Bradley.

Methinks it's time to take RF's advice and give this a rest.

[GAMike]

This thread is pointless the more I look at it. Funny how it becomes pointless at your say so Zack. Not trying to stir the pot. Just being very direct....

I eaton swapped my car, used my Brain and not my checkbook to install it, and the first time to the track with it I ran 11.99 @ 115. Not denying you have a fast Marauder, but did you copy Trilogy parts because you have the knowhow and the access to tools others do not? Its a fair question....... And this would in all fairness, be comparing "Apples to Apples"

[ImpalaSlayer]

Seems to me all I've seen that's been "copied" between the Trilogy kit and the cobra blower swap, unless I'm mistaken, were the couple of brackets. In my opinion, you reach a point where an idea or the way to achieve something can only be done a handful of ways, if not only one, so at what point do you draw the line of crying plagiarism? If they were the first on the market, would that mean they are entitled to be the only one?

exactly! only so many ways to do something. to my knowledge they arnt copyrighted so who cares. besides, eaton swap brackets will not work with a trilogy

[SC Cheesehead]

Just a different perspective here pal!
Your interpretation must get lost/miscued over the cyberwaves.
Hopefully some Eaton swappers will come clean on difficulties they have had going this route.

Why is this even a concern to you, Bradley? I'm very aware that doing an Eaton swap is more difficult than an aftermarket bolt on S/C kit like a Triolgy. Anyone that's attempted an Eaton swap is aware of this, in fact, the challange of overcoming those problems is part of the fun!

What is your point in bringing this up?

It's very obvious that you look down on Eaton swaps, and just as you did over at MCM, it appears that you're trying to create an "Trilogy against Eaton" pissing match. Why?

[a_d_a_m]

It's very obvious that you look down on Eaton swaps, and just as you did over at MCM, it appears that you're trying to create an "Trilogy against Eaton" pissing match. Why?

Because the MMN vs MCM pissing match hasn't been very active lately?

[breeze]

when i first bought my car i didnt want a S/C and didnt know anything about them like most ppl. as i gather parts for the swap i get familiar with what each part does and how it works so the swap has more then 1 advantage. i hated the fact that i had to collect the parts myself but its really easy and adds a chase knowing that with each part your getting closer. not everyboady has deep pockets and for the trilogy. eaton swap is all ford parts with part numbers so what the big deal. ''built not bought'' FTW!

[sailsmen]

Why is this even a concern to you, Bradley? I'm very aware that doing an Eaton swap is more difficult than an aftermarket bolt on S/C kit like a Triolgy. Anyone that's attempted an Eaton swap is aware of this, in fact, the challange of overcoming those problems is part of the fun!

What is your point in bringing this up?

It's very obvious that you look down on Eaton swaps, and just as you did over at MCM, it appears that you're trying to create an "Trilogy against Eaton" pissing match. Why?

When you pay too much for something, you pay for dissapointment?

I only posted that because I know Bradley is a stand up guy who can take a poke or two.

[Bradley G]

Why is this even a concern to you, Bradley? I'm very aware that doing an Eaton swap is more difficult than an aftermarket bolt on S/C kit like a Triolgy. Anyone that's attempted an Eaton swap is aware of this, in fact, the challange of overcoming those problems is part of the fun!

What is your point in bringing this up?

It's very obvious that you look down on Eaton swaps, and just as you did over at MCM, it appears that you're trying to create an "Trilogy against Eaton" pissing match. Why?

To let members know that the parts that are required to do the swap, are not within the same tolerances or quality that will be with a Trilogy kit.
Some may want this information brought to their attention before they attempt an Eaton swap.
The last failure I encountered with my car, was due to ignoring an idler bearing noise for many months.
Eventually the Alternator bracket(Trilogy part) was heavily damaged from the pulley breaking, which repeatedly banged into the alternator bracket.
The new bracket that Jerry Barnes CEO Trilogy Motorsports sent me, was in fact a tiny bit different, than the one I removed.
I assume that some changes do occur over the five + years and 65000 miles that I have had the Trilogy supercharger.
This required me to get a belt of a different length.
If the brackets are so easy to obtain/duplicate, why would another member contact me about purchacing a mangled bracket?

when i first bought my car i didnt want a S/C and didnt know anything about them like most ppl. as i gather parts for the swap i get familiar with what each part does and how it works so the swap has more then 1 advantage. i hated the fact that i had to collect the parts myself but its really easy and adds a chase knowing that with each part your getting closer. not everyboady has deep pockets and for the trilogy. eaton swap is all ford parts with part numbers so what the big deal. ''built not bought'' FTW!

The fead system was solely developed by professionals on CAD by Trilogy, regardless of what you think.

When you pay too much for something, you pay for dissapointment?

I only posted that because I know Bradley is a stand up guy who can take a poke or two.

I have experienced this many times in my travels.
Thanks for the compliment, I've been known to be able to take a few.
I don't mind landing a few myself too.

[GAMike]

More to the point..... If you know someone that went to all this effort to develop parts that you are thinking of making copies of......... Call/PM em to discuss it first..... I know some don't get along with ea. other here...Thats not the point its about doing what is appropriate. That is the right way to handle a thing like this.

If the person that invested alot of time does not mind a part being copied, then go with God........ If you don't know the person obviously these rules would not apply.