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Old 03-12-2019, 03:07 PM
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I’m having a nightmare getting the car to carfixer alignment specs after I got the camber spc kit installed. My local Firestone tech is telling me the SPC bolts aren’t adjustable to how they want it. The tech said he wants the passenger side bolt to the left which I highlighted. Also he said he wants the driver side bolt on the right. Somebody please help

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Old 03-12-2019, 03:13 PM
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Did you. Or he notch out the aluminum frame to get the extra travel?
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Old 03-12-2019, 03:33 PM
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I’m thinking whoever installed them did not install them properly, they did not not notch the crossmember.
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Old 03-12-2019, 04:14 PM
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I agree they prob didn’t clearance the frame holes.
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Old 03-12-2019, 04:17 PM
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I’m thinking whoever installed them did not install them properly, they did not not notch the crossmember.


The crossmember is notched is what my mechanic who installed them said. I just have a hard time trusting the local Firestone shop.. My Mechanic said he can adjust it to that angle, just gota bring it back to mechanic shop.

I just don’t know if the Firestone alignment tech actually knows what he’s talking about and if I’m waisting my time getting it adjusted to where he wants it.


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Install video here
https://www.spcalignment.com/index.p...tion&pid=87365
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Old 03-13-2019, 05:49 AM
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Print the directions... And have them watch the video. You (or they) will need the notching tool (basically a shaped drill bit/file) that SBC and others sell.

If you (or they) have never done this... It seems a little different /odd at first, but once you do it it makes perfect sense.

+4 above it seems they didn't notch the existing hole... And the camber bolt cannot travel/adjust.
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All they have to do to get the big picture is remove the nut. Then they’ll see the notch and try harder..


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If the notch is not long enough the cam will not turn 360 degrees, So if they can't get to the needed setting in one direction, then try the other direction. Either that or have the notch enlarged to allow the 360 degree turn.
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Old 03-13-2019, 06:00 PM
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I believe the Firestone tech didn’t know what he was talking about when he was adjusting the camber because it seems like he didn’t loose the bolt in the back. Then he started bashing the kit saying it was cheap and it wouldn’t turn etc. He mentioned the passenger side camber adjustment isnt where he wants it to be. Also he scratched the hell out my passenger side cam washer.

So I brought it back to my installer and he got the passenger camber adjustment to where the Firestone tech said he wanted it. Instead of going back to that shady Firestone, I took it to Just Tires and gave them the car fixer specs. Here’s the specs I got after the alignment. When I left the Just Tires shop the alignment was even more off then when I brought it in, with the steering wheel all the way to the right while the wheels are center.








Called my mechanic and showed him the specs I got and he said bring the car in Friday. So what he plans on doing is drilling more into the passenger low control arm bushing with the SPC 85137. He said he wants to get the “toe” more even. So will have to take it back for another alignment.



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My Marauder has a lot of front tire inner wear. Just had some new tires put on and want an alignment. I've asked for carfixer specs before (used to have the specs from MM.net somewhere, can someone please provide them?), but I think I drove away with regular specs. Anyway, last time I was there, they said I needed flaps or whatever its called removed to make further adjustment. What are those things called and please provide me the carfixer specs again. Thanks!
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They call them flags.
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The inside edge wear of the front tires is caused by 2 things: negative camber and negative toe (toe out). Caster is not a tire wearing angle. The outside edge wear can be caused by excessive toe in and aggressive cornering.

Factory camber spec is -.5 degrees or- .75 degrees
Factory toe spec is -.15 degrees or- .20 degrees
(BTW, this info came from their website which is updated periodically and may differ from previously published material, such as cd's and paper manuals)

That means your alignment could have -1.25 degrees of camber and toe out of -.35 degrees and still be in the green. This will wipe out the inside edges in 20K miles IMO.

All of the MM's I've aligned (about 10) had at least -1.0 degrees of camber and always toe out of -.10 degrees or more from the factory. That's why almost all MM's you see have excessive inside edge tire wear.

For best tire wear, here is what I use on all MM alignments:
Camber: 0 to -.3 degrees.*
Toe: Zero degrees.
Caster: 5-6.5 degrees positive with .3 degree lead on the right side.

*Camber can affect cornering feel. The more negative camber you have, the better it will handle corners. Most drivers will never feel the difference, especially on the street.
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They call them flags.
They come off with a hammer and chisel. About 30 seconds per side.
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They come off with a hammer and chisel. About 30 seconds per side.
I'm well aware. He was asking the name. I provided it. I work in a shop that averages 15-20 alignments a day. I've installed more then my fair share.
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