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  1. #16
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    The current part numbers for Marauder, Marquis & Town Car rear air springs are the same on the Tasca website. #3U2Z5580PA

    This includes the TC "L" and regular as well as the LS & LSE flavors of the Marquis

    So the info posted by EMAS basically said tere were always two grades regular & HPP

    Tasca shows only one grade for all cars.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EMAS View Post
    Ford made 2 air springs for the 98-up Panthers


    • The air-springs rate is determined by the piston design. Each panther air spring is color coded, using the upper cap and the plastic piston.
    • THe rates and color codes go as follows:
    • -1997 Base RASCream piston and cream cap75 lbs/inch
    • all years HPP air-springs black piston and cream cap102 lbs/inch
    • 1998+ Base RAScream piston and black cap89 lbs/inch




    • For comparison, the steel rear coil rates are: 130 lbs/in civilian, 160 lbs/in CVPI. However with RAS, being air springs, it's rate is variable and dependent on how much air is pumped in. If you add 200 lbs in the trunk, your effective spring rate will be higher as the RAS will pump more air into the air springs to keep the rear at trim height. Likewise, if you lower the rear suspension via the height sensor your spring rate will be lower than before - as there is less air in the bladder. The ratings of the factory airsprings are supposed to be with the springs inflated to normal operating pressure to keep the vehicle at trim height at factory curb weight.

      Because of which, it's hard to directly compare the stiffness of the RAS airsprings rate to the base or CVPI coils by the number alone
    • You can easily see yours by going under the rear of the car (no need to raise it) on the bottom of the Air-Spring is the plastic support that rests on the perch (the piston). Cream/white indicates it is the low-rate spring, as used in non-HPP RAS equipped panthers (Town Cars included)
    • The black piston-ed air-springs are for HPPs, also used on Marauders and Town Car touring sedans and 99+ Limos/Livery.
    • Cream piston for base RAS equipped non-HPP (or similar) models, towing package included. LX Sports also use base rate air springs, the reason behind this is the 17" wheels. Ford had to soften suspension to offset the lower profile tires.
      Marauders have the 18" wheels, and no-compromises on the HPP equipment.
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    Does anyone know the part number for the Marauder oem air springs? Black piston, cream top.
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    I have a set of OEM Marauder air springs for sale, only run on the car for one year then stored indoors.
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    Wilwood Aero6 F, NMDP R brakes, Penske 7500DA shocks, Hypercoil 600lbs F and Grand Marquis R air springs, Addco tubular sway bars, Metco control & Watts, 31 sp axles, Stainless Works cat-back exhaust, Lidio tune, American Racing AR883 9.3" 50mm F 10" 59mm R 20" wheels, Pirelli P-Zero 265/35-20, 275/40-20 tires

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    The HPP/Maruder/Town Car/Limo/ Air Spring is 3U2Z-5580-AA - Black Piston


    The base CV/GM is 3U2Z-5580-PA - Cream Piston


    lifespeed, I just ordered replacement bags, but if jaywish doesn't take your offer, I'd be interested in what you want for the OEM bags. Thanks!




    ETA: I'll verify when my arnott bags come in, but I did not order the heavy duty bags. I'll measure the pistons and compare- think the A-2105 is the closest piston match.

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    The bags are still for sale, $275 incl. shipping. Half off the new price. First person to actually send money gets them.


    I used Arnott, they are not the same as OEM. Definitely a higher rate which I don't think the car needs.
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    2004 Silver Birch Marauder 130K miles
    Wilwood Aero6 F, NMDP R brakes, Penske 7500DA shocks, Hypercoil 600lbs F and Grand Marquis R air springs, Addco tubular sway bars, Metco control & Watts, 31 sp axles, Stainless Works cat-back exhaust, Lidio tune, American Racing AR883 9.3" 50mm F 10" 59mm R 20" wheels, Pirelli P-Zero 265/35-20, 275/40-20 tires

    Coming soon: Livernois 5.0L stroker, ADTR/Vortech V2 intercooled SC, Silverfox trans and Circle D converter

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