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    Rare Fox body Mustang

    It's time to sell my 1984 Mustang GT Turbo Convertible.

    I bought it back in 1994 from the original owner.
    He had kept it outside and the original Ford Silver (non clear coated) paint had already faded to primer grey.

    I know now that I will never have the time, money and patience to restore it.

    The car is VERY rare....one of the rarest Fox body Mustangs ever made.

    2.3L Turbo I4 (non-intercooled, it is NOT an SVO)
    5 speed manual
    A/C

    But....How does one figure a realistic value for the car?
    Is there anyone/forum/site that could help me with pricing the car fairly?


    As stated, it will need a new paint job.
    The rear window leaks so the convertible top will need to be replaced.
    Engine runs fine, and I have the original rims as well.
    I pulled most of the interior out, as well as the faded carpet; it's all stored in my basement.















    What the OEM rims look like:




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    2020 Ford Ranger STX DFI Turbo 2.3L 10 speed Auto
    2017 Ford Fusion Sport DFI Twin Turbo 2.7L V6 6 speed Auto (14.000 ET bone stock in 82 degree heat)
    1985 Mustang GT 5.0 Hatchback 4bbl 5 speed manual (525 HP 363 Dart block/AFR heads with Magnum 6 speed in the works)
    1984 Mustang GT 2.3 Turbo Convertible FI. 5 speed manual
    1966 427 Cobra (ERA) 468 all Aluminum FE 2x4bbl 5 speed manual

    SOLD : 2003 Mercury Marauder FI. 4 speed Auto
    w/Crower Cams & Springs, +1mm SS valves, mild port job on the cylinder heads.
    Extrude honed intake w/PHP spacer.
    Kooks Headers w/2.5" High Flow Cats & X-Pipe, Magnaflow mufflers, OEM tailpipes w/Megs Tips
    B&M Trans cooler w/fan, Level 10 Shift Kit, Art Carr Hughes Deep Sump Trans Pan,
    SVO Rearend Girdle, Redline Gear lube; OEM 3.55s
    'Real Gauges' + matching Trans Temp, Oil Temp, Water Temp, Fuel Pressure, Vacuum/Boost Gauge
    Built: 10/15/02 Bought: 12/16/02 Sold: 10/15/18

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    Clean it up a bunch, install the interior parts and try to sell the car as a running driving car

    I'd start at 3800.00 and keep the car clean, when you have someone come look at the car, pull it out of the garage and pass it off like you've been caring for your baby since you bought it
    The twins2.3 whipple/aluminatorVortech V-2 lots of goodies

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    03 Silver Birch 300b Light Flint Going to fix er up
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    I've had 150 fox bodies.. Rarity wise for the 84 2.3Ts is the GT350 due to the lawsuit from Carroll Shelby over Ford's use of the name. If it was one of those in comparable condition, 3-4k IMHO. This is a fairly rare one also no doubt. Running and together I'd put it 2k-3k, possibly more if you can find someone looking for one. www.foureyedpride.com is a good resource to investigate as well.

    I have a super rare one I've just started to market myself, an 86 t-top coupe.. You don't see many of these at all.
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    I had an 88 T-top GT. Wish I still had it.

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    As I am just finishing up the restoration of my 90 7-Up Vert (pictures on facebook), I can tell you that I've got 4K+ just in the interior alone. New carpet, seat foam, leather seat covers, console, trim, door panels and top. I have to believe yours is more rare than mine at this point, so finish installing everything and ask 7500+.

    But if you do only want $1500, give me a call and I'll swing by and pick it up as-is.

    (facebook: https://www.facebook.com/johnnymarauder)

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    Quote Originally Posted by TooManyFords View Post
    As I am just finishing up the restoration of my 90 7-Up Vert (pictures on facebook), I can tell you that I've got 4K+ just in the interior alone. New carpet, seat foam, leather seat covers, console, trim, door panels and top. I have to believe yours is more rare than mine at this point, so finish installing everything and ask 7500+.

    But if you do only want $1500, give me a call and I'll swing by and pick it up as-is.

    (facebook: https://www.facebook.com/johnnymarauder)
    Yep....That's the problem.
    I'm looking at a BUNCH of coin for the paint job....then the convertible top....then the interior*.
    I'd rather put that money into a 2016 Mustang GT...or a Coyote swap....


    Found these production numbers on StangNet:

    1984 Total Model Production Numbers:

    LX 5.0/GT Convertible (P27M): 7,643
    LX 5.0 Sedan (P26M): 1,395 (448 of them Special Service)
    LX 5.0/GT Hatchback (P28M): 29,142

    GT Turbo Convertible (P27W): 731

    GT Turbo Hatchback (P28W): 3,241
    SVO Hatchback (P28T): 4,507


    1984 Color Production Numbers

    35 Light Academy Blue
    LX 5.0/GT Convertible (P27M): 276
    LX 5.0 Sedan (P26M): 64
    LX 5.0/GT Hatchback (P28M): 102
    GT Turbo Convertible (P27W): 1
    GT Turbo Hatchback (P28W): N/A
    SVO Hatchback (P28T): N/A

    1C Black
    LX 5.0/GT Convertible (P27M): 1,135
    LX 5.0 Sedan (P26M): 214
    LX 5.0/GT Hatchback (P28M): 6,471
    GT Turbo Convertible (P27W): 99
    GT Turbo Hatchback (P28W): 654
    SVO Hatchback (P28T): 1,446

    1E Silver
    LX 5.0/GT Convertible (P27M): 517
    LX 5.0 Sedan (P26M): 67
    LX 5.0/GT Hatchback (P28M): 3,048
    GT Turbo Convertible (P27W): 93
    GT Turbo Hatchback (P28W): 433
    SVO Hatchback (P28T): 976

    2A Medium Canyon Red
    LX 5.0/GT Convertible (P27M): 652
    LX 5.0 Sedan (P26M): 50
    LX 5.0/GT Hatchback (P28M): 3,061
    GT Turbo Convertible (P27W): 92
    GT Turbo Hatchback (P28W): 381
    SVO Hatchback (P28T): 1,021

    2E Light Canyon Red
    LX 5.0/GT Convertible (P27M): 1,190
    LX 5.0 Sedan (P26M): 61
    LX 5.0/GT Hatchback (P28M): 3,636
    GT Turbo Convertible (P27W): 128
    GT Turbo Hatchback (P28W): 408
    SVO Hatchback (P28T): N/A

    5C Dark Academy Blue
    LX 5.0/GT Convertible (P27M): 246
    LX 5.0 Sedan (P26M): 123
    LX 5.0/GT Hatchback (P28M): 168
    GT Turbo Convertible (P27W): N/A
    GT Turbo Hatchback (P28W): N/A
    SVO Hatchback (P28T): N/A

    8Q Light Desert Tan
    LX 5.0/GT Convertible (P27M): 79
    LX 5.0 Sedan (P26M): 13
    LX 5.0/GT Hatchback (P28M): 519
    GT Turbo Convertible (P27W): 12
    GT Turbo Hatchback (P28W): 57
    SVO Hatchback (P28T): N/A

    9C Bright Copper
    LX 5.0/GT Convertible (P27M): 73
    LX 5.0 Sedan (P26M): 18
    LX 5.0/GT Hatchback (P28M): 840
    GT Turbo Convertible (P27W): 19
    GT Turbo Hatchback (P28W): 108
    SVO Hatchback (P28T): N/A

    9L Oxford White
    LX 5.0/GT Convertible (P27M): 2,608
    LX 5.0 Sedan (P26M): 181
    LX 5.0/GT Hatchback (P28M): 7,135
    GT Turbo Convertible (P27W): 198
    GT Turbo Hatchback (P28W): 731
    SVO Hatchback (P28T): 1

    9N Desert Tan Poly
    LX 5.0/GT Convertible (P27M): 32
    LX 5.0 Sedan (P26M): 33
    LX 5.0/GT Hatchback (P28M): 64
    GT Turbo Convertible (P27W): N/A
    GT Turbo Hatchback (P28W): N/A
    SVO Hatchback (P28T): N/A

    9W Dark Charcoal
    LX 5.0/GT Convertible (P27M): 835
    LX 5.0 Sedan (P26M): 123
    LX 5.0/GT Hatchback (P28M): 4,098
    GT Turbo Convertible (P27W): 89
    GT Turbo Hatchback (P28W): 469
    SVO Hatchback (P28T): 1,063

    731 total produced....1 of 93 Silver GT Turbo Convertibles built.

    *the interior isn't bad at all....mainly needs a new carpet and front seat covers. Amazingly, the dash pad is in great shape!
    2020 Ford Ranger STX DFI Turbo 2.3L 10 speed Auto
    2017 Ford Fusion Sport DFI Twin Turbo 2.7L V6 6 speed Auto (14.000 ET bone stock in 82 degree heat)
    1985 Mustang GT 5.0 Hatchback 4bbl 5 speed manual (525 HP 363 Dart block/AFR heads with Magnum 6 speed in the works)
    1984 Mustang GT 2.3 Turbo Convertible FI. 5 speed manual
    1966 427 Cobra (ERA) 468 all Aluminum FE 2x4bbl 5 speed manual

    SOLD : 2003 Mercury Marauder FI. 4 speed Auto
    w/Crower Cams & Springs, +1mm SS valves, mild port job on the cylinder heads.
    Extrude honed intake w/PHP spacer.
    Kooks Headers w/2.5" High Flow Cats & X-Pipe, Magnaflow mufflers, OEM tailpipes w/Megs Tips
    B&M Trans cooler w/fan, Level 10 Shift Kit, Art Carr Hughes Deep Sump Trans Pan,
    SVO Rearend Girdle, Redline Gear lube; OEM 3.55s
    'Real Gauges' + matching Trans Temp, Oil Temp, Water Temp, Fuel Pressure, Vacuum/Boost Gauge
    Built: 10/15/02 Bought: 12/16/02 Sold: 10/15/18

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    Production number probably won't mean squat to most potential buyers.

    You could easily price that car out of 99% of buyers if you set the price to rarity

    I don't suggest you paint the car or fix the top, you will never recoup that money , just clean up what you have, fix all the bulbs, put a new battery in it and sell it as a running driving car.

    Most project car buyers want either a body project, or mechanical project. Selling it as a running driving car that everything works will greatly improve your sellers bargaining chips

    Good luck with the sale
    The twins2.3 whipple/aluminatorVortech V-2 lots of goodies

    Current marauders
    04 DTR totaled JUST NOW starting to part out 7-21-2021 https://youtu.be/REUxjP1BVpg

    04 Silver Birch Dark Charcoal Hardtop Whipple Supercharger
    04 Silver Birch Dark Charcoal Hardtop V2 Supercharger
    04 Silver Birch Dark Charcoal Converted
    03 DBP Light Flint #122
    03 DBP Dark Charcoal #232
    03 Silver Birch 300b Light Flint Going to fix er up
    03 Black 300a
    04 Silver Birch Dark Charcoal moonroof in the works

    04 Heaton Swapped DTR
    Joe's Wrecked DTR rebuild thread

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    Keep it, and fix it up in retirement. It will keep you out of MA's hair.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Turbov6Bryan View Post
    Production number probably won't mean squat to most potential buyers.

    You could easily price that car out of 99% of buyers if you set the price to rarity
    Agreed

    and

    Pricing it to rarity will probably mean a no sale. Rare doesn't mean valuable. There has to be a market. Like I say, the 406/427 Mercs are super rare because nobody wanted them when they were new ..... and that hasn't changed much. I'm thinking this turbo 4 GT fits into the same category (though I must say I LOVE the car and would deal with you if I had the space, time, and money).

    Put a price on it that will satisfy YOU. If if it doesn't sell, hang on to it for something to do in your old age. Who knows, there may be a demand for it now, and if not now, maybe later on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kirk View Post
    Agreed

    and

    Pricing it to rarity will probably mean a no sale. Rare doesn't mean valuable. There has to be a market. Like I say, the 406/427 Mercs are super rare because nobody wanted them when they were new ..... and that hasn't changed much. I'm thinking this turbo 4 GT fits into the same category (though I must say I LOVE the car and would deal with you if I had the space, time, and money).

    Put a price on it that will satisfy YOU. If if it doesn't sell, hang on to it for something to do in your old age. Who knows, there may be a demand for it now, and if not now, maybe later on.
    Agreed as well on the rare does not = value for oddball, non traditional powered/optioned cars, like this.
    This type of rare means the buyer with cash will be rare too.
    good luck how ever it plays out Joe.
    I'd want the cash for a Coyote car instead, myself
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    I did some more research and found this guide:

    http://www.nadaguides.com/classic-ca...ertible/Values

    Looks like low retail is @ $4,350

    I'm advertising it for $4,000 OBO.

    Getting this car prepped and painted is the killer for me.
    I'm not investing thousands of dollars into a $4k car.

    If anyone paints cars, or has access to a good inexpensive painter (is that even possible?) this is a great car and a very good deal for you.

    I'm going to post it on FourEyedPride as well.
    2020 Ford Ranger STX DFI Turbo 2.3L 10 speed Auto
    2017 Ford Fusion Sport DFI Twin Turbo 2.7L V6 6 speed Auto (14.000 ET bone stock in 82 degree heat)
    1985 Mustang GT 5.0 Hatchback 4bbl 5 speed manual (525 HP 363 Dart block/AFR heads with Magnum 6 speed in the works)
    1984 Mustang GT 2.3 Turbo Convertible FI. 5 speed manual
    1966 427 Cobra (ERA) 468 all Aluminum FE 2x4bbl 5 speed manual

    SOLD : 2003 Mercury Marauder FI. 4 speed Auto
    w/Crower Cams & Springs, +1mm SS valves, mild port job on the cylinder heads.
    Extrude honed intake w/PHP spacer.
    Kooks Headers w/2.5" High Flow Cats & X-Pipe, Magnaflow mufflers, OEM tailpipes w/Megs Tips
    B&M Trans cooler w/fan, Level 10 Shift Kit, Art Carr Hughes Deep Sump Trans Pan,
    SVO Rearend Girdle, Redline Gear lube; OEM 3.55s
    'Real Gauges' + matching Trans Temp, Oil Temp, Water Temp, Fuel Pressure, Vacuum/Boost Gauge
    Built: 10/15/02 Bought: 12/16/02 Sold: 10/15/18

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Walsh View Post
    I did some more research and found this guide:

    http://www.nadaguides.com/classic-ca...ertible/Values

    Looks like low retail is @ $4,350

    I'm advertising it for $4,000 OBO.

    Getting this car prepped and painted is the killer for me.
    I'm not investing thousands of dollars into a $4k car.

    If anyone paints cars, or has access to a good inexpensive painter (is that even possible?) this is a great car and a very good deal for you.

    I'm going to post it on FourEyedPride as well.
    Have it painted by the HS vo-tech kids. Some of them are really talented and it may just cost you the paint. Might be worth checking into.

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    Let us know how the sale goes, I'm sure there's someone who just has to have it!
    The twins2.3 whipple/aluminatorVortech V-2 lots of goodies

    Current marauders
    04 DTR totaled JUST NOW starting to part out 7-21-2021 https://youtu.be/REUxjP1BVpg

    04 Silver Birch Dark Charcoal Hardtop Whipple Supercharger
    04 Silver Birch Dark Charcoal Hardtop V2 Supercharger
    04 Silver Birch Dark Charcoal Converted
    03 DBP Light Flint #122
    03 DBP Dark Charcoal #232
    03 Silver Birch 300b Light Flint Going to fix er up
    03 Black 300a
    04 Silver Birch Dark Charcoal moonroof in the works

    04 Heaton Swapped DTR
    Joe's Wrecked DTR rebuild thread

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    In the $ 4000 range sounds about right. A friend in my Mustang Club just sold his White 1985 SVO Hatch for $ 9500. It was an MCA Gold Award winner. The car was perfect. At the Ohio show this year, it won another award for perfection... his 10th at an MCA national show.
    Your GT needs detailing and some work, so $ 4000+ is a fair market price.

    (I'm a National MCA Judge for Fox Bodies from 1985-1993).

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    After waffling on my '84 Mustang GT Turbo Vert...I think that I am going to keep it and 'Resto-mod' it with a new 2.3L EcoBoost engine.
    Not sure if I will go with a 6 speed manual or a 10 speed automatic.
    I'm leaning towards the 10 speed....it'll keep the Turbo 4 on 'full boil' better than a 6 speed manual.
    This means that I will be selling the Turbo 4 cylinder engine parts that I had bought back in the early 2000s.....
    just before I fell in love with, bought, and started modding, a 2003 Mercury Marauder....

    I am going to sell the following:

    2.3L '88 Turbo T-Bird block
    Ported Aluminum Esslinger 'D' port Cylinder head
    Garrett GT30 ball bearing turbo
    Custom stainless steel Exhaust header
    NIB 2.5L Ranger crank
    Wiseco, skirt & crown Calico coated, forged pistons
    Crower 5.7" forged rods
    Calico coated bearings
    Esslinger billet aluminum water pump
    Gutted, ported, port matched and rotated 90 degree Turbo T-Bird intake manifold.

    Will need to pick a roller cam and followers, plus injectors and an Intercooler set-up.

    (I have an OEM Turbo T-bird intercooler)
    Plus more parts that I can't even remember.....

    Anyone into the old 'Pinto' motor 2.3L FORD engines...?
    This set-up will make and easy 400+ HP.
    Last edited by Joe Walsh; 12-15-2018 at 08:22 AM.
    2020 Ford Ranger STX DFI Turbo 2.3L 10 speed Auto
    2017 Ford Fusion Sport DFI Twin Turbo 2.7L V6 6 speed Auto (14.000 ET bone stock in 82 degree heat)
    1985 Mustang GT 5.0 Hatchback 4bbl 5 speed manual (525 HP 363 Dart block/AFR heads with Magnum 6 speed in the works)
    1984 Mustang GT 2.3 Turbo Convertible FI. 5 speed manual
    1966 427 Cobra (ERA) 468 all Aluminum FE 2x4bbl 5 speed manual

    SOLD : 2003 Mercury Marauder FI. 4 speed Auto
    w/Crower Cams & Springs, +1mm SS valves, mild port job on the cylinder heads.
    Extrude honed intake w/PHP spacer.
    Kooks Headers w/2.5" High Flow Cats & X-Pipe, Magnaflow mufflers, OEM tailpipes w/Megs Tips
    B&M Trans cooler w/fan, Level 10 Shift Kit, Art Carr Hughes Deep Sump Trans Pan,
    SVO Rearend Girdle, Redline Gear lube; OEM 3.55s
    'Real Gauges' + matching Trans Temp, Oil Temp, Water Temp, Fuel Pressure, Vacuum/Boost Gauge
    Built: 10/15/02 Bought: 12/16/02 Sold: 10/15/18

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