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    james_hart6 Guest

    Check your VIN

    As ya'll know, my MM has been on the block and I've been negotiating with Jay from Yonkers about the car - our schedules have not been able to mesh.

    On Friday Jay and a buddy flew in to Detroit to check out the MM and, hopefully, drive it home. Jay even brought CD's to crank up on the ride back.

    It looked as if the deal were done until Jay checked the VIN stickers on the fenders, doors, and trunk.

    They don't match the VIN number of the car. At least, the right side fender, doors, and trunk deck don't - the left side does.

    Off the the selling dealer we went - it's a one owner car and I ain't been doin' no parts swappin'.

    After some amount of round around (which Jay will probably detail) the dealer located the "missing" parts to my MM - on a police interceptor in Utah!

    Apparently someone on the production line got the stickers in the wrong order, and the numbers were swapped.

    It occurs to me that it may have been just these two vehicles. Dealer, Jay, and Jerry (Jay's buddy, who has forgotten more about cars than I'll ever know) all say that they've never heard of such a thing. Maybe but maybe not - these might not be the only cars; suppose the fella working the left side of the line started off the day wrong and stayed wrong all day long?????

    Build was 5/02.

    Jay couldn't accept the deal (for which I don't blame him a bit!) because the NY authorities are much more tuned to mismatched VIN stickers than here in Detroit. The dealer wasn't willing to certify a letter that the car was legit, he prefers to let Mercury handle it (again, for which I don't blame him a bit, except since he's the selling dealer he's already pretty much involved) and Mercury won't have anything concrete before Tuesday. Jay had to get back to NY, so the deal was DOA.

    Lessons learned - check the visibible stickers on the fenders (under the hood, quite visible), doors and trunk - making sure numbers match VIN (they won't match the whole VIN, but the numbers will be the last digits in the VIN sequence).

    If Jay and I had communicated better I could have checked the numbers before he flew in, delayed the deal until Mercury solves the issue, and saved Jay a wasted trip and a bunch of $$$ on airline tickets. It just never occured to Jay to ask, since the VIN numbers are never wrong out of the factory. Except when they are. It never occured to me to look - I supplied Jay with the VIN for him to check out before he came, and figured that was all we need do, since the car was new when I bought it.

    I felt terrible for Jay - who laughed it off, apparently Jay and Jerry had been on more adventures on road trips before than they could relate (but I know he can't be laughing about the air fare!).

    So the sale of the car will be on hold until Mercury comes up with something (like new stickers????); I don't want someone else to go through this.

    Jay had a good point, too - if I had sold the car in Detroit most likely no one would have thought to check the numbers. In ten years, assuming these things appreciate in value, the owner might have a difficult time proving the provenance of the car!

    All in all, a horrible day. Jay and Jerry went back to a hotel to wait for their morning flight, I went home and put on Sinatra and opened the Scotch.

    I hope all of your VIN's match!

    Jim

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    DetGeno Guest
    Holy ZHIT! I AM CHECKING MY NOW!!!

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    Dam, sorry the deals on hold, i'll have to go check mine now.

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    James I hope the deal works out. Good luck with FMC.
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    You will be lucky to get a letter from Mercury, IMHO they will not issue new stickers with out first having the stickers returned from the car that has your parts.

    I beleive Roy Pita? can run an oasis and see if perhaps your fenders were replaced due to damage.

    There is no reason why the dealer cannot issue a letter verifying they were the original selling dealer and that the car was sold to you new.
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    Maybe someone who works at Ford will confirm this, but I don't think those stickers have anything to do with legality of VIN ID on a car, they are only for assembly, and are related to painting.
    Never-the-less, it has caused a lost sale for a first owner, and Ford should respond
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    With my car on a trailer half a country away, I can't even check! Now you Texas boys better not get any bright ideas with respect to my car!!

    Kepp us posted and let us know if there is anything that we can do.

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    Hmm. Stickers...

    Mine are all blank, like the numbers were removed. Seems that the warranty inservice date is 9/27/02, but the car was never sold until 7/16/03, then back on the lot a month later. I bought it used in September 03 with only 3700mi. Lost a year on the warranty, but I'll rack up the miles in 24 mo.

    This may have been a demo car? Any ideas out there?
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    Hi JCMM,

    I can't say I've ever seen them blank. I just checked an 89 Lincoln for a friend last weekend and the numbers were still fine.

    They are light when new and I have to use my glasses but they should be there.

    Look close with a good oblique or difuse light source.

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    Arrow Hello!

    Originally posted by JCMM
    Hmm. Stickers...

    Mine are all blank, like the numbers were removed. Seems that the warranty inservice date is 9/27/02, but the car was never sold until 7/16/03, then back on the lot a month later. I bought it used in September 03 with only 3700mi. Lost a year on the warranty, but I'll rack up the miles in 24 mo.

    This may have been a demo car? Any ideas out there?
    What dealer did you buy from?

    Lawrence L&M has sold two demo Marauders, one blue and one black.

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    I hope everything get resolved.

    You (or the new owner) should monitor the status of that Utah Interceptor. That unit would make a great parts car for your Marauder. They're kind of like brothers.

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    James,
    2 questions. One, how may places should we have those stickers, and two, what kind of Scotch?
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    Mine on my MM were halfway pealed off on the front and rear bumpers but i have corrected that!
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    Dang! I got all new bumbers including trunk and hood all around when my car was repaired from March wreck...hummmmm...best go check --probably won't find anything since they were single parts ordered from factory for repairs.....the only vin remaining is under the front glass drivers side that I know of---gotta go look...
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    Originally posted by marauderman
    Dang! I got all new bumbers including trunk and hood all around when my car was repaired from March wreck...hummmmm...best go check --probably won't find anything since they were single parts ordered from factory for repairs.....the only vin remaining is under the front glass drivers side that I know of---gotta go look...
    I'm in the same boat, Tom...going to lose my #s on several parts of a car that Steve Babcock says was the first full day of production Monday, 6/02/02

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