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Thread: Washer Mod For Rear Shocks To Use Wider Tires

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    Washer Mod For Rear Shocks To Use Wider Tires

    Here we go. Discussion open:

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    Since no one has stepped up I will share what I was told.. or remember...


    Apparently the lower shock mount (its midnight, I'm not going to go crawl under the Marauder) has a spacer on both sides of the shock.

    You remove the bolt... take the spacer that is on the inside.. cut it in 1/2. Put one of the halves on the opposite side of the shock in addition to the spacer that was already there (between shock and outboard side) and 1/2 back on the inside and reinsert the bolt. The lower end of the shock is now positioned a 1/2 spacer more away from the tire.

    Now, perhaps someone who has done it can confirm or correct what I remember. I have not done the mod.
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    I'm running 285's on the rear of mine and they don't rub at all.

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    Just go with the QA1 shocks, plenty of clearance.
    Thanks to Darrin @ BC Automotive:
    $1800 and it was worse than when he started!

    Brian (FordNut) FPG # 1458 of 7838
    03 MM 300A (Lotsa mods, 130k mi) was 303rwhp/318rwtq N/A
    then 476/410 D1SC ProCharged on stock block
    then 660/555 D1SC PC on 5.3 wet sleeved Teksid alum big bore stroker
    then 365/369 N/A on 5.3 wet sleeved Teksid alum big bore stroker
    Now 751/617 3.4L Whipple on 5.3 Boss5.0 iron big bore stroker

    03 MM 300B Silver (Mostly stock, originally wife's car, 370k mi) FPG # 7053 of 7838 or 49 of 417 SB
    03 MM 300B Silver, Stock, wife's next one, 136k mi FPG # 7134 of 7838 or 89 of 417 SB
    04 MM Silver, Stock, on standby 85k mi, FPG # 1212 of 3214 or 432 of 997 SB
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    Quote Originally Posted by FordNut
    Just go with the QA1 shocks, plenty of clearance.
    I am dying to do that FordNut.

    If I PM you my address.. can you drop a couple in the mail to me?
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    Brian,

    What is the part number for the QA1 for our cars??

    Also, do they have them for front and back??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marauderjack
    Brian,

    What is the part number for the QA1 for our cars??

    Also, do they have them for front and back??

    Marauderjack
    Correct part number from Naake is NA-MMR and is on sale for $369/pr.

    I used MU-7855-P Mustang ones and modified the spacers/bushings to fit, got them for about $100 each on ebay, brand new.

    They do have both front & rear, but the fronts are the coilovers and are pricey.

    See here: http://www.naake.com/
    Thanks to Darrin @ BC Automotive:
    $1800 and it was worse than when he started!

    Brian (FordNut) FPG # 1458 of 7838
    03 MM 300A (Lotsa mods, 130k mi) was 303rwhp/318rwtq N/A
    then 476/410 D1SC ProCharged on stock block
    then 660/555 D1SC PC on 5.3 wet sleeved Teksid alum big bore stroker
    then 365/369 N/A on 5.3 wet sleeved Teksid alum big bore stroker
    Now 751/617 3.4L Whipple on 5.3 Boss5.0 iron big bore stroker

    03 MM 300B Silver (Mostly stock, originally wife's car, 370k mi) FPG # 7053 of 7838 or 49 of 417 SB
    03 MM 300B Silver, Stock, wife's next one, 136k mi FPG # 7134 of 7838 or 89 of 417 SB
    04 MM Silver, Stock, on standby 85k mi, FPG # 1212 of 3214 or 432 of 997 SB
    01 F150 longbed
    01 F150 shortbed
    00 F150 4x4 stepside
    01 F150 4x4 7700
    68 Stang FB (70 351C 4V, 4 wheel discs, project car)

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    Thanks!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitrous SSC
    I'm running 285's on the rear of mine and they don't rub at all.
    As stated earlier in another thread...I have Pirelli P-Zero Assymetricos in 285/45-18, mounted on stock MM wheels modified to 9.5" wide and purchased through Lidio.

    This is my left rear tire, notice the clean band around the tire, just above where the tire bears Pirelli's name and size data.

    http://www.mercurymarauder.net/showc...c=3&userid=392

    Here are three views of my left rear shock absorber, kindly note the "dust" rubbed from the shock. I've always talked about "just brushing the dust", without scrubbing the paint off the shock. Why does this happen with a 285 wide tire with the strongest sidewalls in the industry?

    http://www.mercurymarauder.net/showc...c=3&userid=392
    http://www.mercurymarauder.net/showc...c=3&userid=392
    http://www.mercurymarauder.net/showc...c=3&userid=392

    Now when Zack posts his pics of claim (also from the other thread) about paint removed from the shock by a 295 wide BFG drag radial on a Lidio 9.5" wide wheel, we'll learn more?

    Meanwhile...I'm not getting a strong grip of this mod as it's been described. What isn't clear to me, is how this mod addresses fitment of wider wheels and tires. Looking at my pics, the rubbing occurs at the very top of the shock. Relocating the bottom of the shock inboard, even this small distance, doesn't impress me as being effective against that contact, but I'll have to look at it more.

    Any complication with suspension dynamics? Function? Shock life or, wear and tear?

    Anyone got some pics or drawings?

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    As for "moving the shock 3/16 of an inch mod":

    The reason you are not getting much info on this mod is that we are aware of only ONE person who has done this....MarauderMike. This is not a "Lidio Mod"....Mike came up with this one on his own.

    Although I do not want to contradict my good friend AzMarauder, there really hasn't been much discussed about Mike's mod around here. Most of us simply didn't need to do anything else to our cars to get things to fit. We know "of" Mike's mod, but little actually about it.

    Sadly, because of Mac's obvious display of outright aggression towards Slim and the rest of the MCM'ers in the last thread, Mike is not interested in coming around and talking about his mod here and getting flamed by Mac as well. Although I anticipate I'll regret it, I'll encourage him to stop by here and post more about it.

    In the meantime, let's not forget that running Nitto 305s and the 9.5" rim automatically means fitment problems. On the contrary, most of those folks running the combination that I know of HAVE NO FITMENT ISSUES. So, if anyone is interested in the Nitto 555 and 9.5" rim combo, a fitment mod would only be necessary IF you have the problem. IF this does occur, many additional options have already been discussed (QA1 shocks, spacer, move shock, don't run the combo, etc).

    EDIT - My comments pertain ONLY to the Nitto 305 and 9.5" rim. If others run other tire makes and models with different sidewall characteristics, then that is a different matter from what i am referring to. All the positive fitment experiences I am personally aware of (at least 8 people) are with the Nitto 305s and widened 9.5" rim.
    Last edited by MikesMerc; 03-12-2006 at 08:18 AM.

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    Get off the cross, I need the wood.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SergntMac
    Get off the cross, I need the wood.
    Mac, Keep it constructive or dont post at all.

    Quote Originally Posted by MikesMerc
    Sadly, because of Mac's obvious display of outright aggression towards Slim and the rest of the MCM'ers in the last thread, Mike is not interested in coming around and talking about his mod here and getting flamed by Mac as well. Although I anticipate I'll regret it, I'll encourage him to stop by here and post more about it.
    I saw that aggressive stance towards Darry as well. Darryl didnt do anything but explain things as he knows them. If Mike wants to post about his mod, he can rest assured that he wont be subjected to the same demeaning behaviour. No one should be afraid to offer their experience because they dont want to put up with ridcule from someone that doesnt see things their way.

    Anyone that gets nasty or derogatory towards someone explaining their experience wont be tolerated. I dont care if you dont agree.
    Last edited by MI2QWK4U; 03-12-2006 at 09:36 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FordNut
    Just go with the QA1 shocks, plenty of clearance.

    What all does this entail? just the rears? is it an all around kit? Please lay it out, I never checked into the QA1 setup at all. Cost as well. Thanks in advance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SergntMac
    As stated earlier in another thread...I have Pirelli P-Zero Assymetricos in 285/45-18, mounted on stock MM wheels modified to 9.5" wide and purchased through Lidio.
    Ah.. but you aren't running the OEM wheels.......

    That is one of the caveats that I mentioned when I discussed my fitment, I am using aftermarket wheels. And I get the same "rubbing" that you do with 295s.

    Interesting how different each item can be even tho the "specs" are supposed to be the same.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MI2QWK4U
    I saw that aggressive stance towards Darry as well. Darryl didnt do anything but explain things as he knows them. If Mike wants to post about his mod, he can rest assured that he wont be subjected to the same demeaning behaviour. No one should be afraid to offer their experience because they dont want to put up with ridcule from someone that doesnt see things their way.
    Did either of you read my apology? My apology to the members at large for disrupting the thread, and to Darryl individually? Doesn't a man's public apology mean anything?

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