2004 Silver Birch 300B
Build date:9/29/2003, Adopted on 12/02/05
Exhaust by Greg
13.630 @ 100.49 mph (11/21/10)
2015 Ford Focus SE Sport FWD
2013 Lincoln MKS EcoBoost AWD (377whp/423tq).
2010 Ford Fusion Sport FWD
1989.5 Ford Mustang 5.0 LXsport
well / Gents, another great CTRLRaven Production from his R@D department /The General M has since the 70's made good handling cars but FOMOCO cars hold up in the long run and ride better and Ford constantly upgrades and improves on their engine engineering. The GM is still using the same engine block foundation for years [cost and research savings to Rob the public]..there is nothing wrong with the recent Gen3 and up small blocks but its time for the General to update their tech dept, 'Just my opinion ,please take no offence GM crew..
Roger that
Assembled 8/25/03. In service 11/5/03.[Safford Lincoln Mercury] . Returned from Service to Dundalk Lincoln Mercury 7/12/11 Adopted and reassigned to Street Duty 7/29/11 .at Car Center [Waldorf Ford] /Waldorf MD. # 27 of 997 silver burch #103 of 3214 Sold Oct 17, 2015. Replaced with 2016 XLT Explorer with 3:66 gear 4WD [ interceptor package] In addition 2015 -V6 Mustang added to the corral April 17,2015 with Roush upgrades .February 2018 upgraded to Explorer Sport , Ford blue ,intake upgrade, intake mod, Unleashed super tune, Governor removed. 1969 Mark III ,Forest Green still in fleet. Carlisle favorite .
These head to head tests always leaving me wondering. First they never put the same rubber on the car and that can make a huge difference in well, everything. Second I never understand whether the packages are as close to each other as they can. Is a Mustang GT the same as a Camaro LE1 trac pac? It is confusing for me as each car has multiple iterations and I don't always feel like the reviewers pick apples to apples.
As far as this review goes perhaps the Camaro handles better at the track but if it's uncomfortable to sit in what's the point to the average buyer? After All not many of us track our cars so being able to sit in a comfortable car for hours on a trip or sitting in traffic seems more appropo to me.
Let's see what plays out when the Mustang track cars hit the market then see how they compare.
Thanks for posting the review Chris.
I thought it was a great review, what it tells me is if I am interested I need to go try both cars. Rarely are two cars that close together that they will have the same tires, brakes, etc. You can't expect that. They were testing two cars with handling packages from different manufacturers - of course they will be different.
Ford has better engine's? not sure I would agree with that eother - again just different, just cause its an old platform doesn't mean its bad, wrong or not significantly improved.
Steven
2004 Marauder Black, loaded
Vortec S/C
4.10s
3500 PI Stall
Kook's headers
476.9 rwhp 385 lbs/tq
KVR's, QA1's, M&Z control arms, rear sway bar
Lidio tune
2004 Suburban Dark Charcoal
1970 W-30 442 convertible twilight Blue
Gotta admit that the Camaro sounded much better than the Mustang....
But, once again they compare apples to oranges.
Let's run a 2015 BOSS 302 (if FORD decides to make them)
against the Camaro 1LE.
BOTH are each manufacturer's 'Track' set-up cars.
Also....I keep gagging at the sight of the Camaro's taillights!....
Is Honda aware that Chevy is buying 1997 Prelude taillights and mounting them on new Camaros??
Last edited by Joe Walsh; 10-16-2014 at 05:10 PM.
2020 Ford Ranger STX DFI Turbo 2.3L 10 speed Auto
2017 Ford Fusion Sport DFI Twin Turbo 2.7L V6 6 speed Auto (14.000 ET bone stock in 82 degree heat)
1985 Mustang GT 5.0 Hatchback 4bbl 5 speed manual (525 HP 363 Dart block/AFR heads with Magnum 6 speed in the works)
1984 Mustang GT 2.3 Turbo Convertible FI. 5 speed manual
1966 427 Cobra (ERA) 468 all Aluminum FE 2x4bbl 5 speed manual
SOLD : 2003 Mercury Marauder FI. 4 speed Auto
w/Crower Cams & Springs, +1mm SS valves, mild port job on the cylinder heads.
Extrude honed intake w/PHP spacer.
Kooks Headers w/2.5" High Flow Cats & X-Pipe, Magnaflow mufflers, OEM tailpipes w/Megs Tips
B&M Trans cooler w/fan, Level 10 Shift Kit, Art Carr Hughes Deep Sump Trans Pan,
SVO Rearend Girdle, Redline Gear lube; OEM 3.55s
'Real Gauges' + matching Trans Temp, Oil Temp, Water Temp, Fuel Pressure, Vacuum/Boost Gauge
Built: 10/15/02 Bought: 12/16/02 Sold: 10/15/18
The 1LE has always been about better handling since 1988. Not surprised one bit that it handles better than the Mustangs performance package. And the wheel package on the 1LE alone is worth the cost. The way it fills up the wheel well looks fantastic. With the new redesigned front and rear facias on the Camaro and the 1LE package. This is a real winner. Throw a little boost at it and you would ALMOST have the best of the Z-28 and ZL-1 wrapped into one car.
Sent from The White House on taxpayers dimes.
DTR + 4.10's + Eaton swap = Wreeeeeeeeeeeeeeedom
2020 Ford Ranger STX DFI Turbo 2.3L 10 speed Auto
2017 Ford Fusion Sport DFI Twin Turbo 2.7L V6 6 speed Auto (14.000 ET bone stock in 82 degree heat)
1985 Mustang GT 5.0 Hatchback 4bbl 5 speed manual (525 HP 363 Dart block/AFR heads with Magnum 6 speed in the works)
1984 Mustang GT 2.3 Turbo Convertible FI. 5 speed manual
1966 427 Cobra (ERA) 468 all Aluminum FE 2x4bbl 5 speed manual
SOLD : 2003 Mercury Marauder FI. 4 speed Auto
w/Crower Cams & Springs, +1mm SS valves, mild port job on the cylinder heads.
Extrude honed intake w/PHP spacer.
Kooks Headers w/2.5" High Flow Cats & X-Pipe, Magnaflow mufflers, OEM tailpipes w/Megs Tips
B&M Trans cooler w/fan, Level 10 Shift Kit, Art Carr Hughes Deep Sump Trans Pan,
SVO Rearend Girdle, Redline Gear lube; OEM 3.55s
'Real Gauges' + matching Trans Temp, Oil Temp, Water Temp, Fuel Pressure, Vacuum/Boost Gauge
Built: 10/15/02 Bought: 12/16/02 Sold: 10/15/18
The camaro definitely seems the better bang for the buck, there's just something about it that doesn't do it for me.
I guess since I would buy one for daily use, the Mustang is more appealing regardless of price or track abilities.
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'18 Chevy Malibu Redline
'15 Mustang GT, performance package
'01 BMW 740i M-Sport, manual swapped
'97 Lincoln Town Car (black on black)
'10 Harley Ultra Limited
'08 Kawasaki ZX6R
'03 Grand Marquis(sold)
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