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    Quote Originally Posted by Leadfoot281 View Post
    Lol!!! ^^^

    My rule would last about 3 weeks before someone knocked me off.

    Domestic issues.
    1. Appoint Ted Nugent, Sarah Palin, Chuck Norris, Ann Coulter, and a German Shepard to the Supreme Court. After that, I'd teach the remaining members how to read and write.
    2. Stop illegal "immigrants" by invading Mexico and turning it into out 51st state.
    3. Kill the bill. No more nationalized health care. Companies are leaving the US rather than trying to deal with it. It's a global economy! How can we compete with one hand tied behind our back? If our stuff is cheaper maybe people will buy it. If you're smart you'll get your own dang insurance with the money you saved.
    4. Privatize education. If the school sucks, don't go there. They'll figure out how to improve if they want to stay in business. The free market works, Fedzilla does not.

    Fiscal policy.
    1. Abolish absolutely ALL corporate taxes. When you tax a company, they pass the expense on to you. Tax 'em too much and their stuff gets to be too expensive to buy and that's when they leave America. Now you ain't got a job or money. That'd end under my rule.
    2. Balanced budget amendment. No surpluses either.
    3. Fire half of Fedzilla. The ATF's job can be done locally. Consider them gone. Privatize the other half of Fedzilla.
    4. No more IRS refunds for anyone. I've never got one, why should anyone else? Tax the poor until they become succesfull. Reduce taxes on the succesfull as an incentive to the poor.

    Foriegn relations.
    1. Send France a "Get well soon" card.
    2. Get out of Afganistan. Bin Laden isn't there and we all know it. We'll use the troops to take over Mexico instead.
    3. Demand an appology from Canada for Bryan Adams, Paul Shaffer, and Celine Dion.

    New Holidays!
    1. National "Take your gun to work" day. This will held the first Monday of every week.
    2. National "Draw a funny picture of the Prophet Muhhammed day".
    3. National "Sink or swim day". On this special day people are reminded that help is not on the way and they'd better learn how to take of themselves and that it's not Fedzillas job to do so. The motto is "You have a safe country. You have plenty of opportunity. You don't need a baby sitter".
    Ha!

    Good stuff leadfoot! I knew you were the man for the job!

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    [QUOTE=kernie;988288]Ha!

    Good stuff leadfoot! I knew you were the man for the job!

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    Quote Originally Posted by kernie View Post
    Ha!

    Good stuff leadfoot! I knew you were the man for the job!

    Good Stuff Ledfoot, couple of small things we'd probably disagree on, but nothing that I couldn't live with. I might write you in on the next ballot

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    Quote Originally Posted by PonyUP View Post
    Good Stuff Ledfoot, couple of small things we'd probably disagree on, but nothing that I couldn't live with. I might write you in on the next ballot

    "Send France a get Well Soon Card" I love it
    I might find a couple of things to disagree on also, he he.

    BTW, I went to a Ted Nugent concert about 1975 {ish}, Bryan Adams opened for him, had never really heard of him, Adams was the concert! He was spectacular as a young rocker.

    I am sorry for Paul Shaffer however, he is uncalled for, you more than made up for it with Sarah Palin though, we can see her from our backyard!

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    Quote Originally Posted by kernie View Post
    I might find a couple of things to disagree on also, he he.

    BTW, I went to a Ted Nugent concert about 1975 {ish}, Bryan Adams opened for him, had never really heard of him, Adams was the concert! He was spectacular as a young rocker.

    I am sorry for Paul Shaffer however, he is uncalled for, you more than made up for it with Sarah Palin though, we can see her from our backyard!

    Paul Shaffer wrote "It's Raining Men", he should be on all Canadian money. And half of ours.


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    This is exactly what I've been trying to tell you guys before about the New World Order? It all goes down in 2012. By making the middle class poor, it will only be the rich vs the poor in the future. Gee I wonder who wins anything against the rich. In 2012 the dollar is going to be destroyed because its still plummeting downward. 2012 is going to be the worst year in American history. I also think 2012 will be the year of world war 3.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crown Vicman View Post
    This is exactly what I've been trying to tell you guys before about the New World Order? It all goes down in 2012. By making the middle class poor, it will only be the rich vs the poor in the future. Gee I wonder who wins anything against the rich. In 2012 the dollar is going to be destroyed because its still plummeting downward. 2012 is going to be the worst year in American history. I also think 2012 will be the year of world war 3.
    Too late. The "Global war on terror" is/was world war 3. I don't think we're still fighting the war on terror anymore, are we?

    I also agree about their efforts to kill the middle class. These are the folks that can't pack up and leave the US like the mega rich can. They have a business or two, kids in college and a mortgage payment to make. They can't escape.

    Redistribution of wealth from the middle class to the poor (with Fedzilla in the middle taking an extra large chunk of it for themselves) is gonna leave everyone broke. Worst yet is all the government dependance this will create.

    A nation full of people that can't fend for themselves will be easy prey to a corrupt (and power hungry) Fed. Soon we'll all be thanking Big Brother for increasing our chocolate rations.

    Live free or die. Work for cash. Pay as little taxes as you can. Starve the beast.
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    They are definitely setting it up so that the middle class has to pay for everyone. The Rich get all the tax breaks, the poor get all the welfare and the middle class has to pay for it all. Perhaps a flat tax is the answer.

    But I think the real answer is that their needs to be an expiration to welfare, not unemployment benefits. There are many americans that have been killed by this economy that are honest, hardworking people. Those are the people we need to help through unemployment. The freeloaders that continue to have kids they can't afford with no incentive to get a job, those are the people that need to get off their ass.
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    Speaking of taxes and people getting handouts....
    Number 8 is the best. And this was up for vote Friday, the Dems put off the vote until sometime this coming week. We're being taxed to death in a no job market, I can't see justifying the Dream Act.

    1. The DREAM Act Is NOT Limited to Children, And It Will Be Funded On the Backs Of Hard Working, Law-Abiding Americans
    Proponents of the DREAM Act frequently claim the bill offers relief only to illegal alien “kids.” Incredibly, previous versions of the DREAM Act had no age limit at all, so illegal aliens of any age who satisfied the Act’s requirements—not just children—could obtain lawful permanent resident (LPR) status. In response to this criticism, S.3827 includes a requirement that aliens be under the age of 35 on the date of enactment to be eligible for LPR status. Even with this cap, many aliens would be at least 41 years old before obtaining full LPR status under the Act—hardly the “kids” the Act’s advocates keep talking about.
    Taxpayers would also be on the hook for all Federal benefits the DREAM Act seeks to offer illegal aliens, including student loans and grants.
    2. The DREAM Act PROVIDES SAFE HARBOR FOR ANY ALIEN, Including Criminals, From Being Removed or Deported If They Simply Submit An Application
    Although DREAM Act proponents claim it will benefit only those who meet certain age, presence, and educational requirements, amazingly the Act protects ANY alien who simply submits an application for status no matter how frivolous. The bill forbids the Secretary of Homeland Security from removing “any alien who has a pending application for conditional status” under the DREAM Act—regardless of age or criminal record—providing a safe harbor for all illegal aliens. This loophole will open the floodgates for applications that could stay pending for many years or be litigated as a delay tactic to prevent the illegal aliens’ removal from the United States. 3. Certain Criminal Aliens Will Be Eligible For Amnesty Under The DREAM Act
    Certain categories of criminal aliens will be eligible for the DREAM Act amnesty, including alien gang members and aliens with misdemeanor convictions, even DUIs. The DREAM Act allows illegal aliens guilty of the following offenses to be eligible for amnesty: alien absconders (aliens who failed to attend their removal proceedings), aliens who have engaged in voter fraud or unlawfully voted, aliens who have falsely claimed U.S. citizenship, aliens who have abused their student visas, and aliens who have committed marriage fraud. Additionally, illegal aliens who pose a public health risk, aliens who have been permanently barred from obtaining U.S. citizenship, and aliens who are likely to become a public charge are also eligible.
    4. Estimates Suggest That At Least 2.1 Million Illegal Aliens Will Be Eligible For the DREAM Act Amnesty. In Reality, We Have No Idea How Many Illegal Aliens Will Apply
    Section 4(d) of the DREAM Act waives all numerical limitations on green cards, and prohibits any numerical limitation on the number of aliens eligible for amnesty under its provisions. The Migration Policy Institute estimates that the DREAM Act will make approximately 2.1 million illegal aliens eligible for amnesty. It is highly likely that the number of illegal aliens receiving amnesty under the DREAM Act will be much higher than the estimated 2.1 million due to fraud and our inherent inability to accurately estimate the illegal alien population. Clearly, the message sent by the DREAM Act will be that if any young person can enter the country illegally, within 5 years, they will be placed on a path to citizenship.
    5. Illegal Aliens Will Get In-State Tuition Benefits
    The DREAM Act will allow illegal aliens to qualify for in-state tuition, even when it is not being offered to U.S. citizens and legally present aliens living just across state lines. Section 3 of the DREAM Act repeals Section 505 of the Illegal Immigration Reform and Immigrant Responsibility Act of 1996 (8 U.S.C. 1623) which prohibits giving education benefits to an unlawfully present individual unless that same benefit is offered to all U.S. citizens.
    6. The DREAM Act Does Not Require That An Illegal Alien Finish Any Type of Degree (Vocational, Two-Year, or Bachelor’s Degree) As A Condition of Amnesty
    DREAM Act supporters would have you believe that the bill is intended to benefit illegal immigrants who have graduated from high school and are on their way to earning college degrees. However, the bill is careful to ensure that illegal alien high school drop-outs will also be put on a pathway to citizenship – they simply have to get a GED and be admitted to “an institution of higher education,” defined by the Higher Education Act of 1965.
    If the alien is unable to complete 2 years of college but can demonstrate that their removal would result in hardship to themselves or their U.S. citizen or LPR spouse, child, or parent, the education requirement can be waived altogether.
    7. The DREAM Act does not require that an illegal alien serve in the military as a condition for amnesty, and There is ALREADY A Legal Process In Place For Illegal Aliens to Obtain U.S. Citizenship Through Military Service
    DREAM Act supporters would have you believe that illegal aliens who don’t go to college will earn their citizenship through service in the U.S. Armed Forces. However, the bill does not require aliens to join the U.S. Armed Forces (the Army, Navy, Air Force, Marine Corps, or Coast Guard); instead it requires enlistment in the “uniformed services.” This means that aliens need only go to work for the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration or Public Health Service for 2 years to get U.S. citizenship. If the alien is unable to complete 2 years in the “uniformed services,” and can demonstrate that their removal would result in hardship to themselves or their U.S. citizen or LPR spouse, child, or parent, the military service requirement can be waived altogether. Such claims will likely engender much litigation and place a huge burden on DHS.
    Furthermore, under current law (10 USC § 504), the Secretary of Defense can authorize the enlistment of illegal aliens. Once enlisted in the U.S. Armed Forces, under 8 USC § 1440, these illegal aliens can become naturalized citizens through expedited processing, often obtaining U.S. citizenship in six months.
    8. Despite Their Current Illegal Status, DREAM Act Aliens Will Be Given All The Rights That Legal Immigrants Receive—Including The Legal Right To Sponsor Their Parents and Extended Family Members For Immigration
    Under current federal law, U.S. citizens have the right to immigrate their “immediate relatives” to the U.S. without regard to numerical caps. Similarly, lawful permanent residents can immigrate their spouses and children to the U.S. as long as they retain their status. This means illegal aliens who receive amnesty under the DREAM Act will have the right to immigrate their family members—including the parents who sent for or brought them to the U.S. illegally in the first place—in unlimited numbers as soon as they become U.S. citizens (6 to 8 years after enactment) and are 21 years of age.
    Additionally, amnestied aliens who become U.S. citizens will be able to petition for their adult siblings living abroad to immigrate to the U.S., further incentivizing chain migration and potentially illegal entry into the United States. When an adult brother or sister receives a green card, the family (spouse and children) of the adult sibling receive green cards as well.
    9. Current Illegal Aliens Will Get Federal Student Loans, Federal Work Study Programs, and Other Forms of Federal Financial Aid
    Section 10 of the DREAM Act allows illegal aliens amnestied under the bill’s provisions to qualify for federal student assistance under Title IV of the Higher Education Act of 1965 (20 U.S.C. 1001 et seq.) in the form of federal student loans (Stafford Loans, Perkins Loans, Federal Direct Stafford/Ford Loans), federal work-study programs, and other federal education services such as tutoring and counseling.
    10. DHS Is Prohibited From Using the Information Provided By Illegal Aliens Whose DREAM Act Amnesty Applications Are Denied To Initiate Their Removal Proceedings or Investigate or Prosecute Fraud in the Application Process
    When an illegal alien’s DREAM Act amnesty application is denied, the bill states that the alien will revert to their “previous immigration status,” which is likely illegal or deportable. The bill, however, prohibits using any of the information contained in the amnesty application (name, address, length of illegal presence that the alien admits to, etc) to initiate a removal proceeding or investigate or prosecute fraud in the application process. Thus, it will be extremely hard for DHS to remove aliens who they now know are illegally present in the U.S., because illegal aliens will be able to claim that the legal action is a product of the amnesty application, and DHS will have the nearly impossible task of proving a negative.


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    Quote Originally Posted by kernie View Post
    I might find a couple of things to disagree on also, he he.

    BTW, I went to a Ted Nugent concert about 1975 {ish}, Bryan Adams opened for him, had never really heard of him, Adams was the concert! He was spectacular as a young rocker.

    I am sorry for Paul Shaffer however, he is uncalled for, you more than made up for it with Sarah Palin though, we can see her from our backyard!

    Canada is fundamentally screwed up if you think Byran Adams is actually better than uncle Ted. Here's proof.

    Ted http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgQTc...eature=related (Lol @ 7:30) .

    Bryan Adams. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=onn8x-qDrtg&feature=fvw

    Also, who would actually complain about seeing Sarah Palin? Personally, I'd PAY for that view!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leadfoot281 View Post
    Canada is fundamentally screwed up if you think Byran Adams is actually better than uncle Ted. Here's proof.

    Ted http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgQTc...eature=related (Lol @ 7:30) .

    Bryan Adams. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=onn8x-qDrtg&feature=fvw

    Also, who would actually complain about seeing Sarah Palin? Personally, I'd PAY for that view!

    I have to concur, Bryan Adams can't hold a light to the Nug

    And I wouldn't mind seeing Sarah Palin, but having to talk to her for an extended period of time might put me off
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    [QUOTE=CBT;988479]Speaking of taxes and people getting handouts....
    Number 8 is the best. And this was up for vote Friday, the Dems put off the vote until sometime this coming week. We're being taxed to death in a no job market, I can't see justifying the Dream Act.



    Yeah, this is where I differ from my party quite a bit. This is just an irresponsible act of legislation aimed at the benefits of citizens of other nations. I understand people wanting to come here and make a better life, but with that also comes drug dealers that want to exploit that better life.

    When we opened our borders for Cuban Refugees, look at what happened. Castro gathered up all of his criminals and sent them here. I am okay with immigrants coming to this country, it seems rather simple, just do it legally.
    Unless you are running from persucution, which the government does have the right to grant amnesty in those instances, it really isn't that difficult to apply for a visa. Isn't that what happens when we go to other countries for an extended period of time?

    Follow procedure and we won't have to boot you out of the country. If you can't get approved for a visa, then you don't come. Seems simple to me.

    Where's the Dream act for our own citizens?
    Wheres the Dream act to help middle america pay for college for their kids?
    Where's the Dream Act to protect me from violating political correctness laws?

    Has the government forgot, it's American Citizens that they represent, not the illegal freeloaders.
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    Looks like it passed, unreal.


    Friends of ALIPAC,

    We regret to inform everyone that Dream Act Amnesty for millions of illegal aliens has passed in the US House by a vote of 216-198.

    While 38 Democrats joined Republicans voting No on the measure, 8 Republicans broke ranks and voted for Amnesty to hand Pelosi, Reid, and Obama their victory!

    Republican turncoats were Cao, Castle, Diaz-Balart, L., Diaz-Balart, M., Djou, Ehlers, Inglis and Ros-Lehtinen.

    The US Senate will vote at 9:30am EST tomorrow Thursday, Dec. 9, 2010. There first vote will be on Amnesty.

    We will contact you at 8am with more instructions, targets, and messages. Please be ready.

    While some pundits, reporters, and groups feel confident that Amnesty will fail in the Senate, WE DO NOT SHARE THAT CONFIDENCE.

    THE CHANCES AMNESTY WILL PASS THE SENATE IN THE MORNING AND BECOME LAW ARE VERY HIGH! TO MANY AMERICANS ARE RELAXED BY THESE UNFOUNDED ASSURANCES.

    Only a few Republicans in the Senate need to surprisingly join with the Democrats to do the deed, just like tonight!

    Please be at your computers, and on our website at alipac.us at 8am EST to receive our instructions.

    JOIN US TOMORROW IN WHAT MAY BECOME AMERICA's LAST CHANCE.

    If we lose in the Senate tomorrow, most future battles will be fought as we retreat step by step, while millions of illegal aliens become legal workers, students, and voters who are used to replace Americans and put in positions of authority over us.

    May God Save The United States.

    Rally your kith and kin and join us shortly after dawn on the East Coast for our next battle tomorrow.

    We must hold the line in the Senate! WE STILL HAVE A CHANCE TO STOP THIS NATION KILLING LEGISLATION BUT WE WILL NEED ALL OF YOUR HELP IN THE MORNING.

    May God favor our efforts.

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    I'm hoping it dies in the senate. Projections are that Snowe and Collins will vote against it, and they're commonly the senate RINOs. The house RINOs that aren't lame ducks need to be remembered in 2012.
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    Unbelievable. Wow, an illegal alien bailout.

    I'm speechless.
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